Legislature(1999 - 2000)

05/07/1999 09:21 AM Senate FIN

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SENATE BILL NO. 32                                                                                                              
"An Act making and amending capital appropriations and                                                                          
reappropriations and capitalizing funds; and providing                                                                          
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The committee considered amendments to the committee                                                                            
substitute, 1-GS1022/D 5/3/99, in the following order:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADM #1: This amendment increases the amount for the                                                                             
Pioneers' Home Health and Safety Repairs component from                                                                         
$144,000 to $250,000. The original request was $500,000;                                                                        
this amendment would fund the request at 50 percent.                                                                            
Senator Gary Wilken moved for adoption. He explained this                                                                       
would allow the department to fund the Sitka Pioneer home                                                                       
elevator mechanical upgrade. He said there would be a small                                                                     
amount leftover to respond to emergency situations or to                                                                        
address violations as they appear in the five other                                                                             
Pioneer's Homes.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams supported the amendment but noted it only                                                                      
granted half of what was needed.  He hoped the maker of the                                                                     
motion would support the full cost.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson commented that he wished the                                                                            
committee could vote yes on all the amendments but there                                                                        
was not adequate funding to do so. However, he stated that                                                                      
he supported this amendment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ADM #2: This amendment of $3,500,000 for the Information                                                                        
Service Fund Equipment Replacement is funded by the state's                                                                     
Information Services Fund. Adoption would not reduce costs                                                                      
to the Information Technology Group nor to user agencies in                                                                     
fiscal year 2000 (FY00). Senator Gary Wilken moved for                                                                          
adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected. Senator Gary                                                                        
Wilken explained this would have no general fund impact and                                                                     
would be paid with interagency receipts. He said the                                                                            
amendment authorized the expenditures of monies collected                                                                       
from the agencies in order to upgrade the $40-50 million                                                                        
investment in equipment. He added that this represents                                                                          
about 70 percent of an on-going process.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson removed his objection and the                                                                           
amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ADM #3: This amendment is identical to the previous                                                                             
amendment. Senator Al Adams did NOT OFFER due to action                                                                         
taken on ADM #2.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADM #4: This amendment is for $250,000 to fund the Bethel                                                                       
Courthouse Transfer. Senator Al Adams requested this be                                                                         
HELD.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ADM #5: This amendment increases the amount of funding for                                                                      
the Pioneer's Home Health and Safety Repairs to the                                                                             
original Governor's request of $500,000. Senator Al Adams                                                                       
stated that due to action taken in ADM #1 that restores                                                                         
fifty percent of the funding, he would NOT OFFER this                                                                           
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADM #6: This amendment inserts a new item, Information                                                                          
Technology Literacy Project with $175,000 of general funds.                                                                     
Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Senator Dave Donley                                                                        
objected.  Senator Al Adams explained the amendment                                                                             
provides continuation of funding for on-line technology                                                                         
training for all public employees, including university                                                                         
staff, faculty and students. He noted that Alaska is the                                                                        
only state in the nation to provide this training                                                                               
opportunity, a goal accomplished through a partnership                                                                          
between the state and the Gartner Group, a private company.                                                                     
The appropriation leverages a $4.5 million grant package to                                                                     
enhance information technology management skills. He warned                                                                     
that without this amendment, the state would have lost the                                                                      
most cost-effective means of training state employees.                                                                          
Training either will not occur, or will be more expensive.                                                                      
Currently, 3,345 users are enrolled in 4,000 on-line                                                                            
training courses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman noted this had a 26-1 match ratio and                                                                       
it seemed to him that the departments could find the funds                                                                      
needed.  Senator Al Adams said he could have the department                                                                     
testify but guessed that when unallocated general                                                                               
reductions were made, it would affect the availability of                                                                       
flexible funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ANNALEE MCCONNELL, Director, Office of Management and                                                                           
Budget, Office of the Governor came to the table and agreed                                                                     
with Senator Al Adams. She stressed that when, in addition                                                                      
to specific program cuts, cuts were made to unallocated                                                                         
funds it was difficult to "find" funds. She spoke to the                                                                        
importance of this training program. She felt the technical                                                                     
investment is an important leverage in a time of tight                                                                          
budgets.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green wanted to know if there were ever a fee                                                                      
imposed for the students taking these training courses.                                                                         
Annalee McConnell replied that the kind of training                                                                             
provided is for basic skills needed for state employees to                                                                      
perform their jobs, so they are not charged a fee. She                                                                          
continued stressing the advantage of the partnership with                                                                       
the Gartner Group, saying it allowed for a high level of                                                                        
training using very little state dollars.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson said he would remain opposed to the                                                                     
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED by a vote of 1-8. Senator Al Adams                                                                         
cast the yea vote.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ADM #7: (This amendment was introduced and acted upon later                                                                     
in the meeting.)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CED #1: This amendment inserts $100,000 in general funds                                                                        
for Economic Development Administration (EDA) Annual                                                                            
Planning Grant. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption.                                                                        
Co-Chair John Torgerson explained this amount is matched                                                                        
with an equal amount of federal funds and is a high                                                                             
priority for the department.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green asked what is the function of the                                                                            
planning grant.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TOM LAWSON, Director, Division of Administrative Services,                                                                      
Department of Commerce and Economic Development, explained                                                                      
the purpose of the grant is to annually provide funds to                                                                        
continue economic development efforts. He said that in the                                                                      
past three years, the department operated several different                                                                     
programs, including a cultural tourism program in rural                                                                         
regions of the state. This year, the goal is to work with                                                                       
rural businesses to get them export-ready.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He pointed out that the federal funds were authorized in                                                                        
the FY00 Operating Budget.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley wanted to know why the general funds                                                                        
were requested in the capital budget rather than the                                                                            
operating budget.  Tom Lawson explained that in the past,                                                                       
the matching funds were part of the Economic Development                                                                        
Matching Grant program, which had not been funded for the                                                                       
last two years. Therefore this year, the EDA grant request                                                                      
was separated out to better obtain funding.  Based on what                                                                      
the department learned, he said next year the federal funds                                                                     
would be removed from the operating budget and put in the                                                                       
capital budget along with this matching fund request.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green objected to the motion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley pointed out that the department had                                                                         
flexibility in the operating budget and he believed this                                                                        
request should not have been included in the capital                                                                            
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell stated he supported the motion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 5-4 the amendment was ADOPTED. Senator Pete                                                                        
Kelly, Senator Lyda Green, Senator Randy Phillips and                                                                           
Senator Dave Donley voted against the motion.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CED #2: This technical amendment increases the amount of                                                                        
other funds for the Kodiak Launch Complex by one million                                                                        
dollars to $6 million to correspond to the Front section of                                                                     
the bill. Co-Chair John Torgerson explained he would NOT                                                                        
OFFER this amendment at this time due to a possible                                                                             
technical problem. Senator Al Adams wanted to know if this                                                                      
amendment would capture all the funding.  Co-Chair John                                                                         
Torgerson answered there is another bill pending that would                                                                     
give authorization to spend the funds and that he would                                                                         
check to see if all available funds would be captured.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CED #3: This amendment restores the originally requested                                                                        
$200,000 general fund match for the Economic Development                                                                        
Matching Grant Program. Senator Al Adams moved for                                                                              
adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected.  Senator Al                                                                         
Adams said this would restore the cornerstone of the                                                                            
department's economic efforts since 1980. He explained that                                                                     
an eligible project would be the construction of an                                                                             
economic development facility and international trade show                                                                      
or small business economic development conference. He spoke                                                                     
of past grants and projects, saying that from 1995 to 1997,                                                                     
the Division of Trade and Development funded more than                                                                          
forty economic development projects statewide totaling more                                                                     
than $1.3 million through this program. He pointed out that                                                                     
the funds matched over $9.2 million of non-general fund                                                                         
monies. He felt this was a great program to assist small                                                                        
economic projects that should be continued.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED by a vote of 1-8. Senator Al Adams                                                                         
voted in favor of adoption.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CED #4: Because this amendment is identical to CED #1,                                                                          
Senator Al Adams did NOT OFFER.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CED #5: (This amendment was addressed later in the                                                                              
meeting.)                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendments for this department were deferred until later in                                                                     
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COR #1: This amendment increases the amount for Equipment                                                                       
Replacement from $125.0 to $250.0 general funds. Senator Al                                                                     
Adams moved for adoption. Senator Dave Donley and Senator                                                                       
Loren Leman objected.  Senator Al Adams explained that the                                                                      
present capital budget only provided for half of the amount                                                                     
needed. He spoke to the equipment failures and said these                                                                       
monies would be used to replace equipment that is either                                                                        
inoperable or worn down. He detailed the major kitchen                                                                          
equipment, laundry room commercial equipment and security                                                                       
and safety equipment and the daily reliance on this                                                                             
equipment.  He talked about the need to address deferred                                                                        
maintenance projects.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COR #2: This amendment doubles the amount of general                                                                            
funding to $900.0 for Maintenance, Renovation, Repair,                                                                          
Renewal and Replacement from what was granted in the                                                                            
committee substitute. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption.                                                                      
Co-Chair John Torgerson objected. Senator Al Adams said                                                                         
only half of the needed funds had been granted.  He                                                                             
repeated his argument of the need to fund deferred                                                                              
maintenance.  He noted the replacement value investment of                                                                      
the approximate 112 state-owned buildings is over $324                                                                          
million. The funds in this request would only be used to                                                                        
replace equipment that is already broken or inoperable. He                                                                      
stressed that the equipment is used 24 hours a day 365 days                                                                     
a year. The state is responsible for the security; safety                                                                       
and medical care for an annual daily average of 985,000                                                                         
inmates.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA COURT SYSTEM                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CRT #1: This amendment inserts $100,000 general funds for                                                                       
Deferred Maintenance. Co-Chair John Torgerson announced                                                                         
that although he sponsored this amendment, he would not                                                                         
offer it for adoption. Senator Al Adams moved for its                                                                           
adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected. Senator Al                                                                          
Adams again stressed the need for deferred maintenance and                                                                      
noted the small dollar amount requested.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams voted yea.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
EDU #1: This amendment deletes $90,000 general funds for                                                                        
Library-Repair Archives, Building Foundation and inserts                                                                        
that same amount for Library-Statewide Library, Electronic                                                                      
Doorway (SLED). Senator Gary Wilken moved for adoption.  He                                                                     
explained this is a transfer of funds to SLED.  He detailed                                                                     
the services SLED provides. Through a cooperative venture                                                                       
between the University of Alaska-Fairbanks and the State                                                                        
Library, SLED provides Internet access to more than 50                                                                          
communities in Alaska.  SLED allows access to the state and                                                                     
legislative home pages, basic government, education,                                                                            
medical and legal information. SLED does not provide e-mail                                                                     
or other commercial Internet services. The major goal of                                                                        
SLED is to provide increased information access for                                                                             
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken noted that the repair of the Archives                                                                       
Building foundation is not a safety-related project. A                                                                          
safety study by the Department of Transportation and Public                                                                     
Utilities determined that the building, staff and contents                                                                      
are secure. The project as proposed will not fix the                                                                            
problems with the building. The Department of Education                                                                         
will continue to work with the Department of Transportation                                                                     
and Public Utilities to identify the scope and cost for the                                                                     
foundation work.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips asked if this amendment proposes                                                                         
substituting capital funds for an operating expense.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KAREN CRANE, Director, Division of Libraries, Archives and                                                                      
Museums, Department of Education came to the table. She                                                                         
told the committee that SLED had been traditionally funded                                                                      
through the capital budget.  Senator Randy Phillips wanted                                                                      
to know if the funds would be used to buy hardware, which                                                                       
is considered capital expenditures. Karen Crane answered it                                                                     
would not.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know how long SLED had                                                                         
been funded from the capital budget. Karen Crane replied                                                                        
SLED has been funded in this manner since its inception in                                                                      
1994. She added that there was some funding contained in                                                                        
the operating budget for SLED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley said he knew the department had great                                                                       
flexibility within the operating budget and could fund SLED                                                                     
from the operating budget general fund.  He thought the                                                                         
program should funded from the operating budget and not the                                                                     
capital budget. He supported maintaining the Archive                                                                            
Building repair component. He warned that if the problems                                                                       
with the building's foundation were not addresses there                                                                         
would be problems with the entire building.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams noted the original request was $100,000                                                                        
and asked if the program could proceed with the $90,000                                                                         
allocation. Karen Crane affirmed that it could.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if the funding                                                                            
mechanism to fund SLED through the capital budget was an                                                                        
administrative decision or legislative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Karen Crane explained that the original capital funds were                                                                      
for SLED equipment costs.  She pointed out that the cost                                                                        
has been steadily reduced over the years, adding that AT&T                                                                      
contributed to the program.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson wanted to know if the witness                                                                           
supported the fund shift.  Karen Crane did.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if it was true that                                                                       
the archive building was not safety related.  Karen Crane                                                                       
said the Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                     
had examined the building and found no danger to contents                                                                       
or employees. She qualified that at some time repairs to                                                                        
the building will need to be addressed but that it will                                                                         
cost several hundred thousand dollars. The Department of                                                                        
Transportation and Public Utilities determined it would be                                                                      
better to address the project as a whole rather than                                                                            
piecemeal as proposed in the original request.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly had toured the building, saw the                                                                             
extensive damage and concluded that it was not a problem                                                                        
that can be fixed with only $90,000.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if this funding shift                                                                     
was an administrative request. Karen Crane replied that the                                                                     
funding request was included in the Governor's capital                                                                          
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley noted that the $90,000 request for the                                                                      
archive building came from the Governor.  Karen Crane                                                                           
admitted she submitted the original request and was                                                                             
recommended by the Governor. Senator Dave Donley said he                                                                        
wondered what else was in the governor's budget was                                                                             
unnecessary.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 7-2. Senator Dave                                                                        
Donley and Senator Sean Parnell voted against it.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
EDU #2: This amendment is similar to the previous amendment                                                                     
but with an amount of $100,000. Senator Al Adams did NOT                                                                        
OFFER based on action taken on EDU #1.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley suggested Annalee McConnell come to the                                                                     
table and tell the Committee what other items were included                                                                     
in the Governor's budget request that are not really                                                                            
necessary. Senator Al Adams suggested that the Committee                                                                        
should therefore discuss the items the Capital Budget                                                                           
Subcommittee added to the budget that were not originally                                                                       
included. Co-Chair John Torgerson noted that discussion on                                                                      
the budget as a whole would be held later.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
An amendment for this department's budget was considered                                                                        
later in the meeting.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
F&G #1: This amendment deletes $200,000 general funds for                                                                       
Statewide Facilities Deferred Maintenance, $100,000 general                                                                     
funds for Vessel and Aircraft Maintenance and inserts                                                                           
$400,000 general funds for Deferred Maintenance, Renewal,                                                                       
Replacement of Facilities, Equipment, Vessels and Aircraft.                                                                     
Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption. Co-Chair John                                                                          
Torgerson explained the amendment combines the facilities                                                                       
deferred maintenance and the vessel and aircraft                                                                                
maintenance and increases the funding amount by $100,000.                                                                       
He noted the amendment would give the department more                                                                           
flexibility to spend the funds within the components.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection, and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
F&G #2: This amendment deletes, "Rabbit Creek Shooting                                                                          
Range" and inserts, "Anchorage Indoor Rifle Range" on page                                                                      
16 line 26 of the committee substitute. Senator Dave Donley                                                                     
moved for adoption. Senator Al Adams objected. Senator Dave                                                                     
Donley explained that this is a technical correction to the                                                                     
Subcommittee report.  He listed past legislative                                                                                
appropriations of fish and game funds for indoor shooting                                                                       
ranges in Fairbanks and in Juneau. The current funding                                                                          
amount is to begin the process of research and planning to                                                                      
build a similar facility in Anchorage, according to Senator                                                                     
Dave Donley. He noted that the fish and game funds are                                                                          
generated by taxes on ammunition.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson pointed out that this amendment is                                                                      
simply a name change and that no additional funds are added                                                                     
to the budget.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams remarked this appropriation is a case of                                                                       
the Subcommittee chair taking care of his own needs rather                                                                      
than considering the rest of the Committee. He stressed                                                                         
that this item was contained in the Governor's capital                                                                          
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 7-1-1, the amendment was ADOPTED. Senator Al                                                                       
Adams cast the nay vote. Senator Pete Kelly was absent.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
F&G #3: This amendment inserts $1,240,400 general funds and                                                                     
$137,800 other funds for the Southeast Region Vessel                                                                            
Facility. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Co-Chair                                                                         
John Torgerson objected. Senator Al Adams explained this                                                                        
amendment provides funds to replace the Southeast vessel                                                                        
maintenance shop, which is currently housed in the Subport                                                                      
building on the Juneau waterfront. The Subport is sited on                                                                      
land owned by the Mental Health Trust Authority and                                                                             
although the Subport lease has been extended several times,                                                                     
new space must be secured before the facility is forced to                                                                      
move.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams continued saying the Department of Fish                                                                        
and Game has negotiated a cooperative agreement with the                                                                        
National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the                                                                      
National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) to construct a                                                                         
building on their site and use the NOAA and NMFS existing                                                                       
dock facility. This agreement substantially reduces the                                                                         
cost of the project, according to Senator Al Adams. He                                                                          
warned that all other options are more expensive and may                                                                        
lead to loss of fishery management capability if vessels                                                                        
must be mothballed for lack of a maintenance facility.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED by a 1-7-1 vote. Senator Al Adams                                                                          
voted in favor and Senator Pete Kelly was absent.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
F&G #4: This amendment adds $375,000 general funds for Dock                                                                     
Repair, Maintenance and Replacement. Senator Al Adams moved                                                                     
for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected. Senator Al                                                                      
Adams detailed the poor condition of the timber retaining                                                                       
walls and support pilings at the two dock facilities                                                                            
located in King Salmon and Cordova. In order to protect                                                                         
state equipment, he surmised these funds must be allocated.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green wanted to know if funds for this request                                                                     
were provided in Co-Chair John Torgerson's earlier                                                                              
amendment.  Co-Chair John Torgerson replied F&G #1 provided                                                                     
significantly less money, but did put all items in one                                                                          
component to allow the department to prioritize projects.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 6-2-1.                                                                          
Senator Loren Leman and Senator Al Adams cast yea votes.                                                                        
Senator Pete Kelly was absent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
At Ease 10:00 AM / 1:43 PM                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There were no amendments submitted for the Office of the                                                                        
Governor's budget.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HSS #1: This amendment adds $34,500 general funds for                                                                           
Alaska Center for the Blind - Sprinkler System. Senator Al                                                                      
Adams moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected.                                                                     
Senator Al Adams spoke to the motion, saying the request is                                                                     
for a nonprofit organization's residential living and                                                                           
training center. He explained that when the facility was                                                                        
purchased and remodeled, the fire code did not require a                                                                        
sprinkler system. The fire Marshall is now insisting a                                                                          
system be installed, according to Senator Al Adams. The                                                                         
funds will cover the cost of design, engineering, permits,                                                                      
materials and labor, plus connection to the city water                                                                          
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HSS #2: This amendment adds $600,000 general funds for the                                                                      
Alano Club Land Purchase. Senator Al Adams moved for                                                                            
adoption. Senator Lyda Green objected. Senator Al Adams                                                                         
explained the club is a self-supported non-profit                                                                               
organization that provides alcohol free and drug free                                                                           
social and educational settings for people recovering from                                                                      
addiction. He continued saying the club provides nearly two                                                                     
dozen Alcoholics Anonymous meetings each week, a social                                                                         
atmosphere for Friday and Saturday night dances and holiday                                                                     
dinners and gifts for families in need.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams pointed out that the Municipality of                                                                           
Anchorage granted the organization $260,000 toward the                                                                          
purchase of land that cost $350,000. He said the cost of                                                                        
the requested 4,000 square foot building is approximately                                                                       
$564,000 and the amount of funds needed for access,                                                                             
landscaping, development and paving amounts to                                                                                  
approximately $200,000. The members of the Alano club are                                                                       
asking for $600,000 from the state to help cover the costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley noted a member of the public was                                                                            
present and he wished this person be allowed to come                                                                            
forward to testify on this request.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL BREDESEN came to the table and told the Committee that                                                                     
the Municipality of Anchorage is widening 15th Avenue,                                                                          
where the current facility is located, and therefore the                                                                        
organization is forced to relocate. As a realtor, he has                                                                        
been searching unsuccessfully for an existing facility to                                                                       
move into. He said the Municipality is unable to grant                                                                          
enough money to cover to entire cost of new construction                                                                        
and therefore, the request is being made to the state.  He                                                                      
pointed out that the Department of Law; judges through                                                                          
court orders and the Veteran's Administration refer                                                                             
individuals to the Alano program.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley told the Committee that he was aware of                                                                     
the problem with the relocation of the club facility and                                                                        
had attempted to assist earlier in the session, but was                                                                         
told the organization had a policy to not accept                                                                                
governmental assistance. He said he recently learned that                                                                       
the organization has changed its policy because of the need                                                                     
for funds for a new facility.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8 the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HSS #3: This amendment adds $7,000 for Alaska Center for                                                                        
the Blind - Boiler Replacement. Senator Al Adams moved for                                                                      
adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson and Senator Lyda Green                                                                        
objected. Senator Al Adams detailed the need to replace the                                                                     
twenty-year old boiler at the facility.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams voted in favor.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HSS #4: This amendment adds $100,000 general funds for                                                                          
Public Health Nursing Wide Area Network and Computer                                                                            
Upgrade. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Senator Sean                                                                      
Parnell objected. Senator Al Adams explained this request                                                                       
would help the public health nurses have a reliable, cost                                                                       
effective and secure rapid data exchange network to handle                                                                      
a volume of sensitive patient care data across the State Of                                                                     
Alaska. He stated that the existing modems are slow,                                                                            
expensive and unreliable. He added that they must run 24                                                                        
hours a day to maintain the best possible data exchange                                                                         
with the outdated technology. He noted that the Alaska                                                                          
Native Tribal Health Consortium pays the modem and toll                                                                         
charges.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-7-1.                                                                          
Senator Al Adams voted yea and Senator Loren Leman was                                                                          
absent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Tape: SFC - 99 #127, Side B    1:52PM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HSS #5: This amendment adds $100,000 general funds for                                                                          
Family Services Field Safety, Office and Transportation                                                                         
Equipment. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Senator                                                                         
Sean Parnell objected. Senator Al Adams explained that the                                                                      
Division of Family and Youth Services' social workers are                                                                       
frequently exposed to potentially dangerous situations                                                                          
while performing their duties of protecting the children of                                                                     
the state. He stressed that the ability for workers to call                                                                     
for assistance in the event of an emergency is critical. He                                                                     
believed modern communications equipment including radios,                                                                      
cellular and satellite telephones provide increased worker                                                                      
safety and are cost-effective. He warned that if this                                                                           
request is not funded, the department's ability to provide                                                                      
this equipment will be seriously diminished and the safety                                                                      
of state employees will be compromised.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams noted that this request was only half of                                                                       
the original amount asked for in the Governor's proposed                                                                        
capital budget.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams cast the supporting vote.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There were no amendments submitted for this department's                                                                        
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
An amendment for this department's budget was considered                                                                        
later in the meeting.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LEGISLATURE                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There were no amendments submitted for the Legislature's                                                                        
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MVA #1: This amendment appropriates $30,000 from the                                                                            
general fund to the Air Force Association for an air show                                                                       
at the Elmendorf Air Force Base celebration of the 18th                                                                         
Anniversary of the Third Wing in June 1999. Senator Loren                                                                       
Leman moved for adoption.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 1:53 PM / 1:56PM                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams and Senator Sean Parnell objected to the                                                                       
adoption of the amendment. Senator Al Adams admonished that                                                                     
this request is for an air show while the Committee was                                                                         
rejecting more critically needed items.  He felt the                                                                            
priorities were backwards. Co-Chair John Torgerson reminded                                                                     
him that this amendment had not yet passed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman stressed that the issue is more than                                                                        
just granting $30,000 for an air show, it is an investment                                                                      
in the state because the military is a big part of the                                                                          
state's economy. He noted that the State had contributed to                                                                     
the air show the previous year and that the air show is                                                                         
largely supported by private and military contributions. He                                                                     
added that over 10,000 people would participate in the air                                                                      
show this year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams stated that the native organization he                                                                         
works for in the interim would be happy to contribute $500                                                                      
toward the air show. He suggested the organizers attempt to                                                                     
gather more contributions from businesses.  Senator Loren                                                                       
Leman had asked the air show organizers to try harder for                                                                       
private contributions.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Loren Leman voted in favor.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DNR #1: This amendment adds $200,000 general funds for Land                                                                     
Status Geographic Information Systems to complete the                                                                           
automation of the State's land status plats. Senator Sean                                                                       
Parnell moved for adoption.  Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                            
explained the original request was $300,000 for this                                                                            
project and he was proposing to restore $200,000.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DNR #2: this amendment inserts $100,000 general funds for                                                                       
Copper River Basin Best Interest Finding. Senator Randy                                                                         
Phillips moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                            
objected.  Senator Randy Phillips noted this item was                                                                           
originally in the operating budget but the Department of                                                                        
Natural Resources Subcommittee decided to address in the                                                                        
capital budget.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips stated that there are two companies                                                                      
interested in oil exploration in the Copper River Basin                                                                         
area. He said this request would provide the funding to                                                                         
gather data for the statutorily required best interest                                                                          
finding. He added that this project would be a revenue-                                                                         
generating item if and when gas is discovered.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams supported the amendment, but wanted to                                                                         
know about the revenue that would be generated.  Senator                                                                        
Randy Phillips responded that future revenues are unknown                                                                       
but that if gas were discovered, the state would get                                                                            
royalties.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson said he would support the amendment                                                                     
but admonished this item belonged in the operating budget.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection to the motion and the amendment was                                                                      
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DNR #3: This amendment appropriates as a grant, $120,000                                                                        
general fund to the Alaska State Snowmobile Association for                                                                     
snowmobile trail development. Senator Lyda Green moved for                                                                      
adoption. Senator Al Adams objected. Senator Lyda Green                                                                         
pointed out that legislation passed the last session                                                                            
requires snowmobile registration. She said the intended use                                                                     
for the registration fees is for trail development. She had                                                                     
received information and comments complaining about the                                                                         
oversight of the Division of Parks regarding trail                                                                              
development. She concluded that there is more emphasis                                                                          
placed on trail closures than on development of new trails.                                                                     
Therefore, she wanted the funds to be paid directly to the                                                                      
association to be used for the development of a trail                                                                           
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson wanted to know if this item was                                                                         
already in the budget and if the amendment simply                                                                               
reappropriates the funds. Senator Lyda Green answered it                                                                        
was. Co-Chair John Torgerson noted the amendment then                                                                           
results in a net zero change. Senator Dave Donley pointed                                                                       
out that the original appropriation was on page 19 line 17                                                                      
of the committee substitute.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green added that Committee members might have                                                                      
heard from varying factions on which group should have                                                                          
oversight of the funds. She said another amendment could                                                                        
accomplish the same purpose. However, she wanted to make                                                                        
sure the Division of Parks is directed to show an interest                                                                      
in developing trails rather than spending the funds on                                                                          
employees or other items.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman wanted to know if the overhead of the                                                                       
Alaska State Snowmobile Association is as high as the                                                                           
State's. Senator Lyda Green estimated the overhead for the                                                                      
volunteer organization would be about $6000 compared to                                                                         
over $50,000 for the division.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips asked if there would need to be a                                                                        
Request for Proposal (RFP) to give the funds to a specific                                                                      
group.  Co-Chair John Torgerson responded the grant line                                                                        
appropriation is as specific as the legislation could get                                                                       
although contractual language could be added later as a                                                                         
letter of intent. Senator Randy Phillips indicated interest                                                                     
in doing so.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams did not think the funds should be granted                                                                      
to one snowmachine organization that did not have full                                                                          
membership participation from across the State,                                                                                 
particularly in rural Alaska. He suggested the revenue                                                                          
generated from the snowmobile registration fees be granted                                                                      
to the state park service for distribution to this                                                                              
organization and also to others across the state. He also                                                                       
suggested utilizing some of the trails program's federal                                                                        
funding to match these state funds.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green quoted correspondence from Jim Stratton,                                                                     
Director, Division of Parks written to Elizabeth Harron,                                                                        
President, Alaska Quiet Rights Coalition. The letter stated                                                                     
in part, "I share your disappointment that we were unable                                                                       
to move forward with our proposed closure to snowmobiles in                                                                     
Denali State Park, though the political climate would not                                                                       
permit it to occur. These are not closures we speak loudly                                                                      
about, for fear of legislative retribution. And we know                                                                         
from our proposed snowmobile closure experience on Curry                                                                        
and Kesugi ridges that retribution to be real. I am                                                                             
managing the state's park system to provide natural quiet                                                                       
as often as possible, given the current political climate."                                                                     
(Copy of letter on file.)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams realized the intent of the amendment due                                                                       
to the content of the memo, was that the funds be dedicated                                                                     
to snowmachine trail development.  He recommended the next                                                                      
amendment, DNR #4 instead, since it did not limit the                                                                           
allocation of funds to one organization.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green asked if there was a way to amend the                                                                        
amendment to give direction to allocate the funds to an                                                                         
association rather than the Division of Parks.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell said he had some correspondence from a                                                                     
constituent, the president of the Alaska Snowmobile                                                                             
Representatives Alliance stating, "We have worked closely                                                                       
for the last several years with Jim Stratton and his                                                                            
department to institute both a funding source and a                                                                             
mechanism for programs to be handled fairly.  The Alaska                                                                        
State Snowmobile Association and the Alaska Snowmobile                                                                          
Representatives Alliance in concert with the Alaska State                                                                       
Parks and Outdoor Recreation have agreed to the entire                                                                          
process. I would urge you to stay the course and allocate                                                                       
the funding in the budget to State Parks and Outdoor                                                                            
Recreation." Senator Sean Parnell concluded that at least                                                                       
one of the affected snowmobile organizations believed the                                                                       
Division of Parks was handling the matter fairly.                                                                               
Therefore, though he was not involved in the negotiations,                                                                      
he opposed the amendment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips suggested removing the name of the                                                                       
organization from the amendment and adding a letter of                                                                          
intent to RFP the funds through a competitive bid at a                                                                          
later time.  He understood Senator Lyda Green's concerns                                                                        
and also understood the difficulties in trying to referee                                                                       
competing groups.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
It was determined that Senator Lyda Green would draft new                                                                       
language to address the concerns of granting the funds to a                                                                     
single organization.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green removed her motion to adopt the                                                                              
amendment. There was no objection and the amendment was                                                                         
HELD.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DNR #4: This amendment added intent language that states,                                                                       
".the $120,000 in general funds being appropriated for                                                                          
Snowmobile Trails Development be expended only on                                                                               
snowmobile trail development and maintenance, safety                                                                            
education programs and the Snowmobile Grant-In-Aid program.                                                                     
The Legislature does not intend for any snowmobile point of                                                                     
sale receipts to be spent on a Snowmobile Program                                                                               
Coordinator." Senator Gary Wilken requested this amendment                                                                      
be HELD pending the outcome of Senator Lyda Green's                                                                             
revision to DNR #3.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DNR #5: This amendment inserts $85,000 general funds for                                                                        
the Mat-Su Harvest Access. Senator Lyda Green moved for                                                                         
adoption. Senator Dave Donley objected. Senator Lyda Green                                                                      
explained that a small grant was given to the Division of                                                                       
Forestry two years ago for summer volunteers and interns to                                                                     
build a portion of a road to allow access to timberland                                                                         
that is otherwise inaccessible. She pointed out that                                                                            
numerous businesses were created with the addition of that                                                                      
road. This allocation would be used to extend the road and                                                                      
would result in a value many times the cost, according to                                                                       
Senator Lyda Green, because of the method of construction                                                                       
using volunteer labor. She said it would make more land                                                                         
accessible for timber harvest.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson stated that he would oppose the                                                                         
amendment because of budget constraints.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips understood that the road extension                                                                       
project would generate an estimated $200,000 in general                                                                         
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 2-7.                                                                            
Senator Lyda Green and Senator Randy Phillips voted in                                                                          
favor.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DNR #6: This amendment adds a new section, and appropriates                                                                     
$350,000 general funds for Reforestation Funding. Senator                                                                       
Al Adams moved for adoption. Senator Sean Parnell objected.                                                                     
Senator Al Adams stressed that in order to have a viable                                                                        
timber industry, restoration is important in areas where                                                                        
nature does not take care of itself. He said that this                                                                          
project would affect 1,335 acres in Fairbanks, Delta, Tok,                                                                      
Copper River and the Kenai areas. He said the money would                                                                       
be used to contract for cone collection, storage, seedling                                                                      
growing, planting and seeding.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 7-2, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams and Senator Loren Leman voted in favor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DNR #7: This amendment doubles the amount of general funds                                                                      
allocated to the Division of Parks to $400,000. Senator Al                                                                      
Adams moved for adoption. Senator Dave Donley objected.                                                                         
Senator Al Adams spoke of the state park system's $35                                                                           
million backlog in deferred maintenance projects. He                                                                            
explained that $56,000 is for restoration and repairs of                                                                        
campgrounds, leveling trails, road repair and to replace                                                                        
tables in the Kenai, Kodiak and Sitka parks. He continued                                                                       
saying $50,000 would be used for trailhead and trail                                                                            
repairs in Chugiak State Park, Tonsina Point Park and Point                                                                     
Bridget and $70,000 would be used for roof repair,                                                                              
communications and cabin repair in the Mat-Su, Kodiak and                                                                       
Kenai areas.  The remainder of the allocation, $24,000,                                                                         
would be used for water and sewer upgrades in the Chena                                                                         
River State Recreation Site and the Anchor River State                                                                          
Recreation Areas plus toilet repairs in Seward.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DNR #8: This amendment shifts $48,000 general funds from                                                                        
State Park Emergency Repairs to Perseverance Trail                                                                              
Emergency Repairs and Transfer of Ownership of Repaired                                                                         
Trail. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Senator Sean                                                                        
Parnell and Senator Lyda Green objected.  Senator Sean                                                                          
Parnell asked Senator Al Adams to hold the amendment until                                                                      
he could distribute a letter from the City and Borough of                                                                       
Juneau to be considered with the amendment. The letter                                                                          
gives a written commitment that the municipality will                                                                           
assume ownership and maintenance responsibility for the                                                                         
trail. (Copy on file.) Senator Sean Parnell stated he had                                                                       
worked for several years to convey ownership of the trail                                                                       
to the city and borough.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted the Department of Law to                                                                          
review the letter to make sure the commitment is                                                                                
constitutional.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell pointed out that the amendment results                                                                     
in a net zero change to the budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams withdrew his motion to adopt the amendment                                                                     
and without objection, it was HELD.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DNR #9: This amendment appropriates $300,000 general funds                                                                      
for Land Status Geographic Info Systems. Senator Al Adams                                                                       
stated that he would not offer due to action taken on DNR                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 2:20PM / 3:04 PM                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DPS #1: This amendment deletes $500,000 general funds from                                                                      
Aircraft Vessel Repair and Maintenance and $125,000 general                                                                     
funds from Fish and Wildlife Protection - Statewide                                                                             
Equipment and inserted $975,000 general funds into Repair,                                                                      
Replacement and Maintenance of Vessels, Fish and Wildlife                                                                       
Enforcement Vessels and Aircraft. Senator Sean Parnell                                                                          
moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson explained the                                                                       
combination of the two items and that there is a $350,000                                                                       
increase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DPS #2: This amendment adds $650,000 other funds for                                                                            
Village Police Officer Training and Equipment. Senator Sean                                                                     
Parnell moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                             
explained this amendment appropriates one-time federal                                                                          
receipts for advanced training, uniforms and equipment for                                                                      
village and tribal police officers at the request of the                                                                        
Administration. He noted no general funds are involved.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley commented that the Subcommittee had no                                                                      
opportunity to review what uses the federal funds are                                                                           
really available for to determine the best allocation. He                                                                       
thought it would be interesting to see how the funds are                                                                        
actually used and how much flexibility is possible.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DPS #3: This amendment adds $8000 general funds for                                                                             
Birchwood Squadron, Alaska Civil Air Patrol. The funding is                                                                     
to remove two underground fuel storage tanks at the Civil                                                                       
Air Patrol hanger at the Birchwood Airport. The Alaska                                                                          
Civil Air Patrol has applied for, and received approval for                                                                     
matching funds from the Department of Environmental                                                                             
Conservation Storage Tank Assistance Program for $12,000.                                                                       
This funding provides the required match. Senator Randy                                                                         
Phillips moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                            
objected.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips corrected the description of the                                                                         
amendment stating that the two underground fuel storage                                                                         
tanks are 12,000 gallons in size. He said the tanks are                                                                         
actually 4,000 gallons.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson wanted to know why this did not                                                                         
qualify for 470/response funds.  Senator Randy Phillips and                                                                     
Senator Al Adams requested Senator Rick Halford's staff to                                                                      
address the matter.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL STOLTZ, staff to Senator Rick Halford, came to the                                                                         
table. He told the Committee the Alaska Civil Air Patrol                                                                        
had qualified for the Department of Environmental                                                                               
Conservation grant for a sixty-percent match. He noted the                                                                      
facility has been under a non-compliance order but had been                                                                     
granted an extension. He could not answer the question on                                                                       
why the project does not qualify for "470" funding, but he                                                                      
stressed that this is a high priority item. Co-Chair John                                                                       
Torgerson thought the project does qualify.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley wanted to amend the amendment to ensure                                                                     
no general funds are used for the project.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Bill Stoltz pointed out that the facility is a                                                                                  
contamination site and the tank removal is required.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley noted the project would qualify for                                                                         
"470" funding if the pending Storage Tank Assistance Fund                                                                       
legislation (SB 128) passes because of enabling language to                                                                     
allow similar projects to qualify.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams asked to hear from the Department of                                                                           
Environmental Conservation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA FRANK, Director, Division of Administrative                                                                             
Services, Department of Environmental Conservation said                                                                         
this project could be eligible but the department would                                                                         
then need to cost recover against the civil air patrol. She                                                                     
explained that by statute the state is required to recover                                                                      
the cost of tank removal from the responsible party.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson wanted to know if, of the millions                                                                      
of dollars spent on the storage tank clean-up program, the                                                                      
department intends to seek recovery. Barbara Frank                                                                              
clarified that the storage tank assistance fund is                                                                              
different than the 470/response fund, which is proposed in                                                                      
this discussion.  Co-Chair John Torgerson then asked if the                                                                     
storage tank fund can be used to fund this project. Barbara                                                                     
Frank answered that it is eligible for the fund and would                                                                       
not require reimbursement.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson offered a friendly conceptual                                                                           
amendment to change the funding source to Storage Tank                                                                          
Assistance Funds.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Bill Stoltz commented that the army had already applied for                                                                     
and received 60-percent funds from the storage tank                                                                             
assistance fund.  The amount requested in this amendment                                                                        
would be used as matching funds required for the grant. He                                                                      
noted that the civil air patrol functions with a small                                                                          
operating budget and is staffed by volunteers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 5-2-2. Senator Sean                                                                      
Parnell and Senator John Torgerson cast nay votes and                                                                           
Senator Pete Kelly and Senator Lyda Green were absent.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DPS #4: This amendment adds $537,500 general funds for Fish                                                                     
and Wildlife Protection Enforcement Replacement Vessels.                                                                        
Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Senator Sean Parnell                                                                       
objected. Senator Al Adams recounted testimony heard in                                                                         
Committee regarding the need for a replacement vessel to be                                                                     
stationed in Kodiak.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-6-2.                                                                          
Senator Al Adams voted in favor and Senator Pete Kelly and                                                                      
Senator Lyda Green were absent.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DPS #5: This amendment increases the amount of general                                                                          
funds for Alaska State Trooper Statewide Equipment from                                                                         
$175,000 to $350,000. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption.                                                                      
Senator Sean Parnell objected. Senator Al Adams noted that                                                                      
only half of the requested amount was included in the                                                                           
committee substitute for this item. He said amendment would                                                                     
fund the In-Car Video Systems program to install 23 cameras                                                                     
in state trooper vehicles across the state. He stated that                                                                      
the video technology has improved conviction rates for                                                                          
traffic citations and other driving related matters. He                                                                         
believed this project would save time and reduce costs                                                                          
within the criminal justice system.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-7-1, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                         
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote and Senator Lyda Green                                                                       
was absent.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DPS #6: This amendment increases the Fish and Wildlife                                                                          
Protection Enforcement Officer Equipment from $125,000 to                                                                       
$250,000 general funds. Senator Al Adams moved for                                                                              
adoption. Senator Sean Parnell objected. Senator Al Adams                                                                       
said this amendment represents the other half of the                                                                            
requested amount from the Governor's budget proposal.  He                                                                       
stated that the committee substitute reduction eliminates                                                                       
half of the funding to replace skiffs, outboards,                                                                               
snowmachines, ATV's and other equipment required for                                                                            
Division of Fish and Wildlife Protection officers to                                                                            
accomplish their enforcement duties.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams voted in favor of the motion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DPS #7: This amendment doubles the amount appropriated from                                                                     
the general fund to Aircraft Vessel Repair and Maintenance                                                                      
to $1 million. Senator Al Adams did not offer due to action                                                                     
taken on DPS #1.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REV #1: This amendment appropriates $2,315,300 Alaska                                                                           
Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC) receipts to Senior                                                                           
Citizen Housing Development Program; allocating $1,100,000                                                                      
to Wasilla Senior Housing and $1,215,300 to Talkeetna                                                                           
Senior Housing. Senator Lyda Green requested this be HELD.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REV #2: This amendment adds $500,000 general funds for AHFC                                                                     
Riverbend Multi-Purpose Building. Senator Al Adams moved                                                                        
for adoption. Senator Sean Parnell, Senator Randy Phillips                                                                      
and Senator Dave Donley objected. Senator Al Adams                                                                              
explained the appropriation would fund a multi-purpose                                                                          
facility at the Riverbend affordable housing project in                                                                         
Juneau. Currently, he said, the tenants of the housing                                                                          
complex have no facility available for meetings or after-                                                                       
school activities for resident children, and there is a                                                                         
lack of adequate shop and storage space. He warned that if                                                                      
the planned construction of this facility were not                                                                              
undertaken this year, the cost would increase by                                                                                
approximately $25,000.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams voted in favor of the motion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REV #3: This amendment adds $3,917,000 general funds for                                                                        
AHFC Mountain View Senior Units, Phase II. Senator Al Adams                                                                     
moved for adoption. Senator Sean Parnell objected. Senator                                                                      
Al Adams explained the housing remodel is required in order                                                                     
to meet new federal guidelines relating to housing for                                                                          
seniors and disabled persons, and if not completed, the                                                                         
facility will be out of compliance with federal                                                                                 
regulations. He pointed out that a delay in construction                                                                        
would result in a cost increase of approximately $195,000.                                                                      
In addition, he warned, the housing complex would lose                                                                          
$71,475 in rental income on the eight apartments already                                                                        
vacated in preparation for the interior renovation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REV #4: This amendment increases AHFC receipts funding for                                                                      
AHFC Low Income Weatherization from $2,400,000 to                                                                               
$5,400,000. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Co-Chair                                                                       
John Torgerson objected. Senator Al Adams testified this                                                                        
project improves the quality of life for low-income                                                                             
residents and lowers their cost of living. He added that                                                                        
the program provides jobs and boosts the economy of                                                                             
Anchorage - home to many installation workers, contractors                                                                      
and suppliers of building materials.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams voted in favor of the motion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REV #5: This amendment adds $4,000,000 AHFC receipts for                                                                        
Senior Citizens Housing Development. Senator Al Adams moved                                                                     
for adoption. Senator Sean Parnell objected.  Senator Al                                                                        
Adams believed the housing development grant program should                                                                     
be continued, but noted all the funds were eliminated in                                                                        
the committee substitute. He listed the amount of money                                                                         
lost by various groups: the Elders Action Group in Naknek,                                                                      
$675,000; Wasilla Area Seniors, $1.1 million; Upper                                                                             
Susitina Seniors in Talkeetna, $1.2 million; Residents                                                                          
Senior Services in Ketchikan, $156,000; Homer Seniors,                                                                          
$754,000; and the AHFC Pre-Development Grants Program,                                                                          
$99,400. He thought the impact of losing funds for this                                                                         
program would result in displacement of senior citizens                                                                         
from their communities due to inadequate housing. He                                                                            
believed the state should assist its seniors no matter                                                                          
where they lived.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 2-7.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams and Senator Lyda Green cast yea votes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REV #6: This amendment adds $6,000,000 AHFC receipts for                                                                        
AHFC Supplemental Housing Development Funds. Senator Al                                                                         
Adams moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected.                                                                     
Senator Al Adams referred to testimony heard earlier in the                                                                     
Committee stating this funding will leverage approximately                                                                      
$48 million federal Housing and Urban Development funds. He                                                                     
explained the combined funding will complete about 6500                                                                         
homes throughout the state and will benefit the state's                                                                         
urban economy because over fifty-percent of the money will                                                                      
be used for the purchase of supplies and expertise from                                                                         
urban areas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams voted in favor of the motion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DOT #1: This amendment appropriates $11,500,000                                                                                 
international airport revenue funds for Anchorage                                                                               
International Airport Terminal Baggage System                                                                                   
Upgrade/Replacement. Senator Sean Parnell moved for                                                                             
adoption.  Co-Chair John Torgerson explained this                                                                               
appropriation comes from airport funds and has a net zero                                                                       
effect on general funds. He said the air carriers had voted                                                                     
to assess themselves to generate revenues for this project.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to hear from the department                                                                       
whether the air carriers intend to absorb the cost of this                                                                      
project or if they intend to pass the cost along to their                                                                       
passengers.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KURT PARKAN, Deputy Commissioner, Department of                                                                                 
Transportation and Public Utilities testified that the                                                                          
revenues would be an assessment by the airlines and imposed                                                                     
through landing fees. He could not speak the matter of                                                                          
whether the costs would be passed along to passengers. He                                                                       
stressed that the airlines will pay for the project rather                                                                      
than the State.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DOT #2: This amendment specifies that $150,000 of the                                                                           
$1,028,000 general funds appropriated to Facilities                                                                             
Deferred Maintenance and Critical Repairs is to be                                                                              
allocated to Closure of State-Maintained Portion of                                                                             
Harborview Facility. Senator Sean Parnell moved for                                                                             
adoption then removed his motion without objection.  Co-                                                                        
Chair John Torgerson WITHDREW this amendment to defer to                                                                        
DOT #11.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DOT #3: This amendment shifts funding to the National                                                                           
Highway System Program (NHS) Construction allocating                                                                            
$24,500,000 to Anchorage International Airport Terminal                                                                         
Expansion Landslide Access Improvements. Senator Sean                                                                           
Parnell moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                             
explained this moves a NHS project from the Airport                                                                             
Improvement Program. He claimed this allocation was the                                                                         
original intent for the funds but that an error was made in                                                                     
drafting the committee substitute. He stated this change                                                                        
results in a zero net affect to the general fund.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan addressed the matter saying this amendment is a                                                                     
technical amendment. The component was originally located                                                                       
in the Airport Improvement Program portion of the budget as                                                                     
a national highway project and this amendment restores the                                                                      
location of the funds, he stated.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOT #4: This amendment specifically allocates the following                                                                     
federal and general funds to certain bridge projects under                                                                      
the NHS Bridge Replacement Program: Copper River Highway,                                                                       
Million Dollar Bridge #0206, $10,500,000; Glenn Highway, MP                                                                     
105 Caribou Creek Bridge Replacement, $14,000,000; and                                                                          
Sterling Highway, Soldotna Urban and Kenai River Bridge                                                                         
for adoption. He stated that the amendment to the State                                                                         
Transportation Improvement Program (STIP) is offered on the                                                                     
recommendation of the Capital Budget Subcommittee. He                                                                           
explained that there is $100 million in federal                                                                                 
discretionary funds available nationwide for bridge                                                                             
projects and that the Department of Transportation and                                                                          
Public Utilities plans to apply for grants to construct                                                                         
three bridges. While the department did not anticipate                                                                          
receiving a grant for all three bridges, Senator Dave                                                                           
Donley remarked that they did expect to receive at least                                                                        
one and maybe two. Therefore, the purpose of this funding                                                                       
is to give legislative approval for matching funds for                                                                          
whichever projects did receive a federal grant. He                                                                              
preferred legislative oversight and authorization rather                                                                        
than allowing the department to arbitrarily remove funding                                                                      
from another project, which was the department's original                                                                       
intent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams did not recall a recommendation on this                                                                        
matter during the Subcommittee process and suggested the                                                                        
discussion may have occurred behind closed doors. He asked                                                                      
if the department supported his theory that allocating                                                                          
specific projects in this fashion will result in                                                                                
construction delays.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan replied that the potential for project delays                                                                       
is present when projects are categorized into multiple                                                                          
appropriations. He stressed that Alaska will be competing                                                                       
for the bridge construction grants and could expect to                                                                          
receive at least one, but possibly more. However, he                                                                            
cautioned that there is a 20-percent state match                                                                                
requirement and the appropriation in this amendment only                                                                        
contains enough funds to match one grant. If more than one                                                                      
grant is approved, there will not be enough general funds                                                                       
to cover the match requirement and he warned that this is                                                                       
where the delays will occur.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley stated that he didn't feel strongly on                                                                      
this matter, but noted that it was discussed during a                                                                           
Subcommittee meeting when Senator Al Adams was out of town.                                                                     
Senator Dave Donley wanted to give the full Committee an                                                                        
opportunity to review the merits of the request. He                                                                             
stressed the ramifications for not adopting the amendment                                                                       
is that $14 million designated for other projects could                                                                         
"disappear" to be used as matching funds for the bridge                                                                         
grants and the legislature would have no say in the matter.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan answered Senator Lyda Green's question that the                                                                     
grants would all be awarded in one year rather than over                                                                        
several years, and would cover the construction portion of                                                                      
the projects that need to be completed in one phase.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green noted no general fund match for the                                                                          
bridge projects is provided in the committee substitute.                                                                        
Senator Dave Donley responded saying the committee                                                                              
substitute contains $3.5 million not designated for                                                                             
specific projects. He explained that the department is                                                                          
speculating on the possibility of receiving one or more                                                                         
grants. If one grant is awarded, the committee substitute                                                                       
contains adequate matching funds, according to Senator Dave                                                                     
Donley. However, if more than one grant is awarded, the                                                                         
department would need to draw matching funds from the STIP                                                                      
and that would affect other projects. His intention is to                                                                       
remove all three bridge projects from the STIP so the STIP                                                                      
funds cannot be raided. He stressed that there are                                                                              
advantages and disadvantages of either funding method and                                                                       
that this is a policy decision for the Committee to make.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips asked about the department's                                                                             
priority system that determines which project will be                                                                           
addressed if more than one grant is awarded. Kurt Parkan                                                                        
answered that the federal government would make the                                                                             
priority determinations. He spoke of the new discretionary                                                                      
system under the TEA-21 (federal transportation plan) where                                                                     
states can apply for funding for various projects. Because                                                                      
the department has had no experience with the new system,                                                                       
Kurt Parkan explained the plan is to submit several                                                                             
projects in hopes of gaining at least one approval. He                                                                          
stressed that the department wants to capture as much                                                                           
federal funding as possible and therefore applies for more                                                                      
than it expects to receive. Therefore, he could not say how                                                                     
the federal government would prioritize the three projects                                                                      
or what criteria would be applied. He only knew that there                                                                      
is a set amount of funds available nationwide for the                                                                           
discretionary bridge project.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green asked if the grants required a 20-                                                                           
percent state match rather than the usual ten-percent for                                                                       
most transportation projects. Kurt Parkan said that is                                                                          
correct and is because the projects are in addition to the                                                                      
regular projects.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green calculated the amount requested in the                                                                       
amendment was inadequate to provide the match for all three                                                                     
bridge projects.  Kurt Parkan clarified that the department                                                                     
did not anticipate receiving all three grants and that the                                                                      
amount requested in the amendment would cover one project.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan then answered Co-Chair John Torgerson's                                                                             
question that if the bill were not amended, the projects                                                                        
would remain in the STIP program, which contains adequate                                                                       
funds for two projects.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson stated that he did not approve of                                                                       
the way the department implemented the intent of the                                                                            
legislature with regard to the STIP.  However, he felt that                                                                     
the committee substitute is better than the amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson asked what would happen if none of                                                                      
the bridge project grants were awarded. Kurt Parkan                                                                             
responded the department would spend the funds set aside in                                                                     
this amendment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley removed his motion without objection                                                                        
and WITHDREW the amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DOT #5: This amendment eliminates the appropriation                                                                             
distinctions for Trials and Recreational Access for Alaska                                                                      
(TRAAK) Category A: $12,528,663, Category B: $1,005,826 and                                                                     
Category C: $8,392,877, combines the funding into a single                                                                      
TRAAK appropriation of $22,175,799, and specifies certain                                                                       
projects and amounts to be spent on each project. Senator                                                                       
Dave Donley moved for adoption. Senator Al Adams objected                                                                       
because he wanted to know what projects would be                                                                                
eliminated.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley said one project, $100,000 federal                                                                          
receipts and $9,926 general funds for the Copper River Bike                                                                     
Path, is deleted from the TRAACK at the request of the                                                                          
Governor. He noted several projects are added back into the                                                                     
budget: Church Road Bike Path, Petersburg/Mitkof Highway                                                                        
Coastal Path and Wrangell Airport Loop Phase I.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams asked the department about the project                                                                         
breakdown and if the amendment will hamper any projects.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan replied the amendment to remove the TRAAK                                                                           
categories is an improvement over the original draft                                                                            
submitted by the Subcommittee. The department wished the                                                                        
Copper River trail had not been removed. He noted that the                                                                      
department's original request contained a "collapsed"                                                                           
matching fund from which projects could draw that would                                                                         
minimize the amount of general funds required. By                                                                               
compartmentalizing the projects, the general fund match                                                                         
requirement is increased, he cautioned. He detailed the                                                                         
past Capital Project Clean-up Effort and attributed the                                                                         
difficulties in getting adequate matching funds to the fact                                                                     
that the matching funds were already attached to specific                                                                       
projects. He summarized that compartmentalizing the                                                                             
projects makes it more difficult for the department to                                                                          
capture federal dollars and is a less efficient use of                                                                          
general funds. He added that this argument also applies to                                                                      
other amendments coming before the Committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know why Juneau is                                                                             
receiving $3.5 million for trails and why Anchorage is                                                                          
receiving less than that amount.  He wanted to know the                                                                         
criteria the department uses in selecting projects.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan explained the criteria compares projects                                                                            
against others across the state and that while Juneau                                                                           
receives significant funds this year, Anchorage may get                                                                         
more next year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips commented that he believed Juneau is                                                                     
receiving a disproportionate amount of funding. Kurt Parkan                                                                     
responded that this is just a snapshot in time and over the                                                                     
course of several years, the TRAAK funds are allocated                                                                          
fairly across the state. Senator Randy Phillips requested a                                                                     
history of the funding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley addressed Senator Randy Phillips's                                                                          
concerns saying the department had adopted informal                                                                             
criteria and internal policies to set priorities.  The                                                                          
Administrative Procedures Act states that the allocation of                                                                     
resources must be done by regulation so he speculated the                                                                       
department's practices could be illegal under the Supreme                                                                       
Court's interpretation of the state statute. In spite of                                                                        
this, he said, the department has refused to adopt                                                                              
regulations to replace the current policy. He said the                                                                          
legislature is attempting to make reforms in this area and                                                                      
he is disappointed the department has not addressed the                                                                         
matter already. Senator Dave Donley complained that the                                                                         
current criteria did not weigh a project based on the                                                                           
volume of use.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to hold the amendment until a                                                                     
detailed funding history of TRAAK is provided to the                                                                            
Committee. TOM BRIGHAM, Director, Division of Statewide                                                                         
Planning, Department of Transportation and Public Utilities                                                                     
replied the information will be prepared for the Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley pointed out that there is funding for                                                                       
TRAAK projects under the Anchorage Metropolitan Area                                                                            
Transportation Study (AMATS) program. He said the reason                                                                        
the US Forest Service Portage Valley Trail System is                                                                            
included in this amendment is because it is outside the                                                                         
Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley withdrew his motion without objection                                                                       
and the amendment was HELD.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DOT #6: This amendment breaks down the $49,912,059                                                                              
appropriation for AMATS into individual projects and                                                                            
assigns specific funding amounts for each. Senator Dave                                                                         
Donley WITHDREW this amendment saying that DOT #10 will be                                                                      
offered in its place.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DOT #7: This amendment eliminates the appropriation                                                                             
distinctions for Community Transportation Program (CTP)                                                                         
Category A: $69,207,533, Category B: $23,845,880 and                                                                            
Category C: $2,717,694, combines the funding into a single                                                                      
CTP appropriation of $95,723,564, and specifies certain                                                                         
projects and amounts to be spent on each. Senator Dave                                                                          
Donley moved for adoption. Senator Al Adams objected.                                                                           
Senator Dave Donley noted one project is deleted from the                                                                       
Governor's list of requested projects, the                                                                                      
Iliamna/Nondalton Road Completion Project. He also noted                                                                        
the addition of $1,395,000 for Sitka Harbor Way                                                                                 
Reconstruction/O'Connell Bridge-Harbor Drive project. He                                                                        
explained this project was included in the STIP until a                                                                         
month ago when it was deleted despite the Subcommittee's                                                                        
recommendation to maintain it.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams referred to the elimination of the                                                                             
Iliamna/Nondalton Highway project and pointed out that the                                                                      
project is "ready to go". He wondered why a different                                                                           
project is not eliminated instead and stated he would be                                                                        
offering DOT #9 to address the matter. He argued that the                                                                       
project should not be taken away from rural Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if this amendment                                                                         
would build any new roads or just provide improvements on                                                                       
existing roads.  Senator Dave Donley explained the CTP                                                                          
component of the STIP includes both new roads and                                                                               
rehabilitation of old roads in a combination of traffic                                                                         
improvements and revisions. The new roads include one to                                                                        
St. Mary's Airport and a new sanitation road in Venati.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams repeated his concern with the change of                                                                        
appropriations.  He wanted the department to identify which                                                                     
projects are eliminated by this amendment and how this                                                                          
amendment affects existing projects. Kurt Parkan concurred                                                                      
with Senator Dave Donley that the Iliamna/Nondalton Highway                                                                     
is the only project eliminated. Kurt Parkan stated the                                                                          
department feels this highway is a good project that                                                                            
connects two communities. He noted that the project scored                                                                      
high on the priority determination.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson asked why the Sitka Harbor Way                                                                          
project was dropped off the STIP. Kurt Parkan did not know                                                                      
specifically why but stated he would find out and report                                                                        
back to the Committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 7-1-1. Senator Al                                                                        
Adams voted against the motion and Senator Pete Kelly was                                                                       
absent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DOT #8: This amendment increases the general funds for Nome                                                                     
Port and Harbor Improvements from $1,231,000 to $2,462,000.                                                                     
Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Senator Dave Donley                                                                        
objected. Senator Al Adams spoke to the amendment saying it                                                                     
restores the funds to the original request made by the                                                                          
Governor. He claimed that the Subcommittee took the money                                                                       
allocated to this project and instead appropriated it to                                                                        
the Port of Anchorage. The City of Nome already expended $1                                                                     
million in matching funds for this project and is prepared                                                                      
to provide an additional $4.8 million for completion of the                                                                     
entire project, he stressed. Because of the city's efforts,                                                                     
he thought the money should be returned to the project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley reminded Senator Al Adams that the                                                                          
appropriation in the committee substitute was part of the                                                                       
Subcommittee report that was adopted during a public                                                                            
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams countered that he still didn't think it                                                                        
was right to take funding from a rural project to give to                                                                       
an urban project.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman commented that the Municipality of                                                                          
Anchorage is contributing greatly to the match requirement                                                                      
for the Port of Anchorage project.  He added that 85                                                                            
percent of the cargo coming into the state arrives at the                                                                       
Port of Anchorage and is then spread out across the state,                                                                      
including rural Alaska. Therefore, he concluded that                                                                            
dredging the Knik Arm Schoal has a substantial effect on                                                                        
the cost of goods coming into Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams stated that these were two good projects                                                                       
and neither one should be compromised. He pointed out that                                                                      
the Port of Nome project would encourage economic                                                                               
development in the mining industry for rural Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In response to Senator Randy Phillips' inquiry, Kurt Parkan                                                                     
explained the department merely forwarded the port project                                                                      
requests from communities to the legislature for allocation                                                                     
of matching funds.  He noted the Municipality of Anchorage                                                                      
request came in late and missed the deadline for inclusion                                                                      
in the Governor's budget proposal. He stated that the                                                                           
department has supported this project in the past and                                                                           
continues to support it.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if the projects are                                                                       
compared against each other or simply considered as they                                                                        
are received.  Kurt Parkan replied that the department                                                                          
makes no modifications to the requests.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley pointed out the Nome project is funded                                                                      
in the committee substitute for more than the Anchorage                                                                         
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams voted in favor.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DOT #9: This amendment adds $4,845,000 federal funds for                                                                        
Iliamna/Nondalton Highway. Senator Al Adams moved for                                                                           
adoption.  Senator Sean Parnell objected. Senator Al Adams                                                                      
explained this is a top project of the Senator from Bethel,                                                                     
Lyman Hoffman. Senator Al Adams repeated his earlier                                                                            
statement that the project is ready to begin.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know why the project was                                                                       
dropped from the Governor's budget request.  Senator Dave                                                                       
Donley answered the removal was the recommendation of the                                                                       
Subcommittee.  Senator Randy Phillips asked if the project                                                                      
only involves federal funds.  Senator Dave Donley answered                                                                      
that the funding is a combination that includes state                                                                           
matching funds.  Kurt Parkan explained this project                                                                             
requires the usual 90-10 split with the federal government                                                                      
providing 90 percent of the funds and the state providing                                                                       
ten-percent in matching funds.  Senator Randy Phillips                                                                          
calculated that the amendment would require $485,000                                                                            
general funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan commented that this project could be considered                                                                     
a new road. Co-Chair John Torgerson noted a bridge is also                                                                      
included in the project.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley noted the Subcommittee heard testimony                                                                      
that the number of vehicles available to use the highway is                                                                     
only thirteen. He added that those vehicle owners pay no                                                                        
registration fees to assist in the cost of road                                                                                 
construction or maintenance. Co-Chair John Torgerson said                                                                       
his office had received phone calls informing him that                                                                          
there are more than thirteen vehicles that would use the                                                                        
highway. Kurt Parkan stated the highway would serve                                                                             
approximately 500 residents.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if the purpose of the                                                                     
highway is to connect two communities, access mining                                                                            
development or perhaps serve a different purpose. Kurt                                                                          
Parkan responded saying there are several benefits to the                                                                       
connection of the two communities including consolidation                                                                       
of emergency services and sharing one airport and landfill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams commented that this is an overland access                                                                      
route to help the economy of the two communities and the                                                                        
Lake and Peninsula Borough as a whole. He added that the                                                                        
highway will help reduce Department of Public Safety's                                                                          
response time, reduce air travel and would also prevent                                                                         
accidents caused by snowmachines breaking through ice.                                                                          
Educational and medical services would also benefit, he                                                                         
stated.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Kurt Parkan elaborated saying that with the completion of                                                                       
the highway, the department would probably concentrate                                                                          
improvement efforts on only one of the two airports in the                                                                      
two communities, which would benefit the state in the long-                                                                     
term.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know the savings for                                                                           
combining all the services. Kurt Parkan did not know but                                                                        
thought the Borough could determine an amount.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken wanted to know if this would allow the                                                                      
consolidation of two schools.  Kurt Parkan said that is                                                                         
conceivable and possible.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams noted the highway could improve the                                                                            
transportation of supplies and of students.  It could                                                                           
enhance educational opportunities, allow for staff                                                                              
reductions and provide competition between two schools, he                                                                      
stated.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted the Borough to provide                                                                            
information showing the cost savings to the Committee by                                                                        
the next day. Kurt Parkan said he would contact the                                                                             
Borough.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green appreciated Senator Randy Phillips's                                                                         
interest, but noted if cost saving information is required                                                                      
on this project, it should be required for all projects.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 2-7.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams and Senator Loren Leman voted in favor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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DOT #10: This amendment breaks the AMATS appropriation of                                                                       
$49,912,059 into specific projects and states the amount to                                                                     
be spent on each. Senator Dave Donley moved for adoption.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams moved to amend the amendment. Senator Sean                                                                     
Parnell objected. The amendment to DOT #10 deletes $655,800                                                                     
federal highway funds from Anchorage Area Contingency for                                                                       
Planning Construction Shortfalls and Road/Intersection                                                                          
Improvements and $1,364,700 federal highway funds from                                                                          
Dowling Road-Raspberry to Lake Otis Parkway. The funds are                                                                      
then inserted into the Iliamna/Nondalton Highway project.                                                                       
Senator Al Adams spoke to the amendment changes noting the                                                                      
two deleted projects have already been funded in the                                                                            
previous year's budget.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley explained the projects were placed in                                                                       
last year's budget, but that the Commissioner of the                                                                            
Department of Transportation and Public Utilities failed to                                                                     
submit them to the AMATS committee for consideration and                                                                        
the funds were never utilized.  That was why the projects                                                                       
are seen here with no general fund match, according to                                                                          
Senator Dave Donley. He referred to Commissioner Perkins'                                                                       
testimony before the Committee in January stating that                                                                          
adjustments must be made within the existing STIP                                                                               
allocation to accommodate these two projects if they were                                                                       
to be included. Senator Dave Donley remarked that DOT #10                                                                       
provides the accommodation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams argued the funds granted last year for the                                                                     
projects still remains and did not need to be                                                                                   
reappropriated. Senator Dave Donley commented that argument                                                                     
was true for the Victor Road project and that the                                                                               
Commissioner refused to incorporate the project into the                                                                        
STIP.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The amendment to the amendment FAILED by a vote of 1-8.                                                                         
Senator Al Adams cast the yea vote.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams stated he would oppose the amendment                                                                           
citing it as a double appropriation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson noted the department's                                                                                  
recommendation to handle the funding of the two projects in                                                                     
this manner.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 8-1. Senator Al                                                                          
Adams voted against the motion.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DOT #11: This amendment adds $150,000 general funds to                                                                          
Facilities Deferred Maintenance and Critical Repairs                                                                            
allocating it for Closure of State-Maintained Portion of                                                                        
Harborview Facility. Senator Sean Parnell moved for                                                                             
adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson explained that this                                                                           
amendment replaces DOT #1 and provides funding for closure                                                                      
of the state's portion of the Harborview facility in Valdez                                                                     
and seal it off from the community-maintained hospital. The                                                                     
funds also provide for the purchase of a generator to allow                                                                     
the two portions of the facility to operate independent of                                                                      
each other.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams moved to amend DOT #11. Senator Sean                                                                           
Parnell objected. The amendment to the amendment inserts                                                                        
$400,000 AHFC funds for Maniilaq Senior Center. Senator Al                                                                      
Adams favored the original amendment but wanted to improve                                                                      
it by adding funds for foundation repair of this senior                                                                         
center. He noted the additional funds are not general funds                                                                     
and that the intent is to turn the state-owned facility                                                                         
over to a non-profit organization after repairs are                                                                             
completed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The motion to amend the amendment FAILED by a vote of 1-8.                                                                      
Senator Al Adams voted in favor of the motion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson spoke to the state's $232,000                                                                           
annual maintenance cost for the Harborview facility and the                                                                     
attempts to sell it to the City of Valdez. In the operating                                                                     
budget, he stated that he denied the funding request for                                                                        
on-going maintenance and asked the department to provide an                                                                     
estimate of the cost to close the facility. Therefore, this                                                                     
amendment is in lieu of the on-going operating expense, he                                                                      
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOT #12: This amendment adds $3,500,000 federal funds to                                                                        
the CTP and allocates it to Kenai Peninsula Roads. Senator                                                                      
Gary Wilken told the Committee of a recent Federal Highway                                                                      
Administration creation of a Public Lands Discretionary                                                                         
project on the Kenai Peninsula that provides 100-percent                                                                        
federal funding. He moved for adoption of the amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell asked the department to confirm that                                                                       
this project requires no state match.  Kurt Parkan                                                                              
confirmed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman asked where this project is located.                                                                        
Kurt Parkan replied that there are several projects,                                                                            
including Homer East End Road.  Tom Brigham elaborated,                                                                         
saying the principle project is the East End Road and that                                                                      
if funds are left over, additional projects will be                                                                             
undertaken. He said the regional branch of the department                                                                       
is in the process of identifying which projects would be                                                                        
addressed with South Kenai as the target area.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips asked about this program.  Kurt                                                                          
Parkan spoke about requests received for projects on                                                                            
adjoining state and federal public lands, including state                                                                       
parks. He said most requests come from a community,                                                                             
however, the department itself identified the East End Road                                                                     
project. Co-Chair John Torgerson noted the federal funds                                                                        
available for the program are limited.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DOT #13: (This amendment was introduced and acted upon                                                                          
later in the meeting.)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DOT #14: (This amendment was introduced and acted upon                                                                          
later in the meeting.)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DOT #15: (This amendment was introduced and acted upon                                                                          
later in the meeting.)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
UNV #1: This amendment appropriates $800,000 university                                                                         
receipts for Juneau PE/Recreational Facility. Co-Chair John                                                                     
Torgerson said he would HOLD this amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
UNV #2: This amendment adds $450,000 general funds for                                                                          
Small Business Development Program and "Buy Alaska"                                                                             
Program. Senator Loren Leman said he would NOT OFFER this                                                                       
amendment, deferring to UNV #3, of the same topic.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
UNV #3: This amendment adds $450,000 general funds for the                                                                      
Small Business Development Program. Senator Lyda Green                                                                          
moved for adoption.  Co-Chair John Torgerson stated he                                                                          
supports the amendment, believing the program should be                                                                         
funded because of the impact it has on the state.  Senator                                                                      
Lyda Green pointed out that this item was omitted from the                                                                      
original Governor's budget.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
UNV #4: This amendment adds $7 million general funds for                                                                        
UAF-Tanana Valley College/Hutchison Career Center                                                                               
Renovation. Senator Gary Wilken moved for adoption. Co-                                                                         
Chair John Torgerson and Senator Lyda Green objected.                                                                           
Senator Gary Wilken explained the funds requested are in                                                                        
addition to the Governor's original request of $3 million.                                                                      
Senator Gary Wilken noted that this appropriation also pays                                                                     
for $1,480,000 in deferred maintenance required to complete                                                                     
the project. He added that the Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                                     
plans to match the appropriation with $14 million. He                                                                           
stressed that the facility is a unique and innovative                                                                           
concept in grades K-14 education and has support from                                                                           
Interior educators and administrators.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley remarked that this was one of the most                                                                      
painful reductions that had to be made this year. He                                                                            
complemented the community of Fairbanks for its support of                                                                      
this project. He noted that no other school projects are                                                                        
included in the budget this year therefore no community is                                                                      
singled out. He hoped funding could be included in the                                                                          
capital budget next year.  He pointed out a large influx of                                                                     
funds for the university through AHFC bonds in the prior                                                                        
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson agreed with Senator Dave Donley                                                                         
that it is hard to oppose funding for this project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken applauded the community for their                                                                           
efforts and hoped other communities would use this                                                                              
situation as a model.  He was convinced the project will go                                                                     
forward, if somewhat delayed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 2-6-1.                                                                          
Senator Gary Wilken and Senator Pete Kelly voted in favor                                                                       
and Senator Al Adams was absent.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
UNV #5: This Amendment adds $3 million general funds for                                                                        
UAF-Tanana Valley College/Hutchison Career Center                                                                               
Renovation. Senator Gary Wilken moved for adoption. Senator                                                                     
Sean Parnell objected. Senator Gary Wilken emphasized that                                                                      
this amount is necessary to allow the passage of the local                                                                      
bond issue in the fall election. He noted this is the                                                                           
amount originally requested in the Governor's budget.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 3-5-1, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                         
Senator Gary Wilken, Senator Pete Kelly and Senator Loren                                                                       
Leman cast yea votes and Senator Al Adams was absent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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UNV #6: This amendment inserts $30,470,000 general funds                                                                        
for UAA Consortium Library. Senator Al Adams moved for                                                                          
adoption. Senator Lyda Green and Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                        
objected. Senator Al Adams spoke to the motion, saying the                                                                      
funds are to construct this library. He pointed out that                                                                        
$10 million was appropriated the prior year to fund site                                                                        
design and preparation. The $30 million will complete the                                                                       
project, he noted.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams stressed that failure to fund this request                                                                     
would allow the previous year's efforts go to waste. He                                                                         
suggested there are many financial ways the project can be                                                                      
addressed, including a bond issuance.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell stated he fully supported the                                                                              
University of Alaska-Anchorage, had approved of past                                                                            
allocations, and that he will support this project in the                                                                       
future when the budget gap is not as big. He said he could                                                                      
not support this request when the smaller Hutchison project                                                                     
was not being funded.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams suggested that an equitable bond package                                                                       
could be made in the Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman supported the project as one of the                                                                         
first signers of a petition calling for a new library and                                                                       
he also co-sponsored enabling legislation. However, he felt                                                                     
this is not the appropriate mechanism to address the                                                                            
funding. He appreciated that Senator Al Adams recognized                                                                        
that some of the core Anchorage projects supported all of                                                                       
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams stressed rural Alaskans supported                                                                              
Anchorage pointing out that a healthy rural Alaska makes                                                                        
for a healthy urban Alaska.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken hoped the Committee would consider that                                                                     
an assessment was being done to identify the most important                                                                     
university facilities. He stated that the facilities are                                                                        
being designed to better accommodate many needs and that                                                                        
libraries of the future won't need to be as large because                                                                       
of the availability of information on computers. He wanted                                                                      
to ensure that the entire $30 million request is truly                                                                          
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams cast the favoring vote.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
UNV #7: This amendment inserts $800,000 university receipts                                                                     
for University of Alaska Southeast, Juneau PE/Recreation                                                                        
Facility. Senator Al Adams moved for adoption. Co-Chair                                                                         
John Torgerson objected. Senator Al Adams noted a technical                                                                     
correction of changing "general funds" to "university                                                                           
receipts". He pointed out that this amendment authorizes                                                                        
the university to receive university receipts to construct                                                                      
a physical education and recreation facility.  He stressed                                                                      
that currently the Juneau campus has no recreation                                                                              
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if this amendment is                                                                      
similar to UNV #1. Co-Chair John Torgerson replied that it                                                                      
is identical and that he recommends the committee hold this                                                                     
amendment to wait for UNV #1 to be re-offered, or simply                                                                        
vote it down.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams WITHDREW his motion to defer to UNV #1.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
UNV #8: This amendment adds $450,000 general funds for the                                                                      
Small Business Development Center and was NOT OFFERED due                                                                       
to action taken on UNV #3.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MUNICIPAL/ UNINCORPORATED GRANTS                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MUNI #1: This is a two-part amendment. The first part                                                                           
addresses Municipal Capital Project Matching Grants,                                                                            
shifting $25,000 other funds from Mountain Village-                                                                             
Community Facilities and Equipment to Mountain Village Teen                                                                     
Center Renovation and Equipment Purchase. The second part                                                                       
of the amendment addresses Municipal and Unincorporated                                                                         
Capital Project Matching Grants-Title Changes. The title                                                                        
changes are Chefornak Community Building Phase II to                                                                            
Chefornak Generator Purchase; Juneau Fire Station Repairs                                                                       
Phase IV to Juneau Building Maintenance: Deferred Building                                                                      
Maintenance and Koliganek Emergency Completion VPSO                                                                             
Building to Koliganek Equipment Repairs. Senator Sean                                                                           
Parnell moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                             
explained that the amendment appropriates the municipal                                                                         
grant funds in the Mountain Village account to a particular                                                                     
project and also provides for requested project changes to                                                                      
three grantees.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips moved to divide the question.                                                                            
Without objection, the amendment was divided into MUNI #1A,                                                                     
Municipal Capital Project Matching Grants and MUNI #1B,                                                                         
Municipal and Unincorporated Capital Project Matching                                                                           
Grants-Title Changes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MUNI #1A: Senator Randy Phillips objected to its adoption.                                                                      
Co-Chair John Torgerson noted that the funds have a net                                                                         
zero affect on the general fund. He explained that                                                                              
communities are allowed to accrue $25,000 a year for five                                                                       
years for a particular project and at that point, the funds                                                                     
must be appropriated to that project, which is the case                                                                         
here. He stated that this amendment deletes the funds from                                                                      
the Front section of the committee substitute and inserts                                                                       
them into the Back section to appropriate them to a                                                                             
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 8-1. Senator Randy                                                                       
Phillips cast the nay vote.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MUNI #1B was ADOPTED without objection or further                                                                               
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MUNI #2: This amendment reduces the capital matching grant                                                                      
for Shungnak from $50,000 to $25,000. Senator Al Adams                                                                          
moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected for                                                                        
explanation. Senator Al Adams explained the community                                                                           
wishes to save its capital matching grant allocations for a                                                                     
larger project but had encountered a sewer system emergency                                                                     
and needed some funds to address repairs. Only $25,000 was                                                                      
needed for the repairs and the amendment returns the                                                                            
balance to the community's account. There is a net zero                                                                         
affect on the budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SUPPLEMENTAL                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUPP #1: In this amendment, front section language is added                                                                     
to read, ".Fish and Game. The appropriation made by chapter                                                                     
137, SLA 1998, page 32, line 20 (Administration and                                                                             
Support) is amended by adjusting the "Other Funds" as                                                                           
follows: Federal Receipts, $60,000, Inter-Agency Receipts,                                                                      
($60,000)".                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption. Co-Chair John                                                                          
Torgerson said the amendment is submitted at the request of                                                                     
the Department of Fish and Game. He explained that in FY99                                                                      
the department had lower expenditures of inter-agency                                                                           
receipts and higher expenditures of federal funds than                                                                          
estimated. He stressed this amendment is a net zero                                                                             
adjustment to compensate for the actual expenditures and                                                                        
does not increase the department's spending authority.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRONT SECTION                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #1: This amendment extends the lapse date of                                                                              
appropriations made to the Department of Natural Resources                                                                      
in 1998 for Appraisal Of Public School Trust Fund Lands.                                                                        
Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption. Co-Chair John                                                                          
Torgerson told the Committee that the original appraisal                                                                        
was challenged in court without success and this extension                                                                      
will allow the department to proceed with the appraisals.                                                                       
He added that this amendment will have a net zero impact on                                                                     
the budget.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #2: This amendment replaces $15,000,000 general funds                                                                     
with the same amount of unappropriated AHFC receipts for                                                                        
Capital Project Matching Grant Programs. Senator Sean                                                                           
Parnell moved for adoption. Senator Al Adams objected. He                                                                       
wanted to hear from AHFC about the impact this amendment                                                                        
would have on the AHFC budget.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BITTNEY, Legislative Liaison, Alaska Housing Finance                                                                       
Corporation, Department of Revenue came to the table and                                                                        
said the Corporation was hoping for some consideration to                                                                       
the reductions made to the AHFC capital budget. With the                                                                        
remaining funds from the AHFC dividends, he requested they                                                                      
be used for the outstanding capital projects. He also                                                                           
wanted to prevent the dividend from being overspent.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams clarified that the Corporation wants to                                                                        
see the AHFC restored funds used for projects they                                                                              
requested. John Bittney agreed, noting that the preferred                                                                       
projects are those that will benefit their residents and                                                                        
also will protect the high investment rating of the bonds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 7-2. Senator Al                                                                          
Adams and Senator Lyda Green voted against the motion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #3: This amendment appropriates $100,000 general                                                                          
funds to the Department of Health and Social Services for                                                                       
payment as a grant to the Hope Community Resources for                                                                          
improvements, maintenance and repairs. Senator Dave Donley                                                                      
sponsored this amendment and announced he would NOT OFFER                                                                       
it for consideration.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #4: This amendment appropriates a total of $566,000                                                                       
federal funds to the Department of Natural Resources and                                                                        
the Department of Fish and Game for specific projects.                                                                          
Senator Loren Leman moved for adoption. Co-Chair John                                                                           
Torgerson objected.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman WITHDREW his motion to await action on                                                                      
FRONT #9.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #5: This amendment appropriates $250,000 general                                                                          
funds to the Department of Community and Regional Affairs                                                                       
for payment as a grant to Arctic Power for education                                                                            
efforts to open the coastal plain of the Arctic National                                                                        
Wildlife Refuge for oil and gas exploration and                                                                                 
development. Senator Loren Leman moved for adoption. Co-                                                                        
Chair John Torgerson stated that he supported the                                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #6: This amendment appropriates $200,000 of statutory                                                                     
designated program receipts to the Department of Health and                                                                     
Social Services for construction of a regional                                                                                  
youth/residential diagnostic treatment facility in                                                                              
Ketchikan. Senator Dave Donley moved for adoption. Co-Chair                                                                     
John Torgerson explained he sponsored the amendment at the                                                                      
request of Senator Robin Taylor.  Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                       
referred to an attached memo explaining the funds were                                                                          
given to the City of Ketchikan who wants to transfer them                                                                       
to the Department of Health and Social Services for                                                                             
construction of the facility. This amendment allows the                                                                         
appropriation and Co-Chair John Torgerson noted there is no                                                                     
general fund impact.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #7: This amendment appropriates $900,000 general                                                                          
funds to the Department of Administration for payment as a                                                                      
grant to the Matanuska-Susitna Borough for construction of                                                                      
public infrastructure at Hatcher Pass. Senator Lyda Green                                                                       
moved for adoption.  Co-Chair John Torgerson and Senator Al                                                                     
Adams objected.  Senator Lyda Green spoke to the motion                                                                         
saying the requested $900,000 will secure $8 million in                                                                         
private sector investments, $2 million from the Matanuska-                                                                      
Susitna Borough and over $2 million from federal sources.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams stated that his concern was related to                                                                         
unresolved legislation regarding the transfer of land from                                                                      
the State to the Borough.  He felt the funds should be                                                                          
appropriated to the Department of Natural Resources and, if                                                                     
and when the land did transfer to the Borough, RSA the                                                                          
funds to the Borough.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green countered that the property proposed for                                                                     
development in this amendment is not the property under                                                                         
consideration for transfer. She said the developer has                                                                          
already made land use arrangements with the Department of                                                                       
Natural Resources and the Borough.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams then asked if a private developer is                                                                           
undertaking the Hatcher Pass development. Senator Lyda                                                                          
Green confirmed but noted that this amendment addresses the                                                                     
infrastructure involved with the development.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 1-8, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Lyda Green voted in favor.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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FRONT #8: This amendment reappropriates the 1994 Department                                                                     
of Administration's unexpended and unobligated corporate                                                                        
receipt balances for Boiler System Replacement at the                                                                           
Fairbanks Pioneer's Home to the Department of Community and                                                                     
Regional Affairs for state match of federal funds from the                                                                      
US Department of Commerce. Senator Sean Parnell moved for                                                                       
adoption.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Without discussion or objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #9: This amendment appropriates $566,000 from                                                                             
interagency receipts to the Department of Natural Resources                                                                     
and the Department of Fish and Game for specific projects.                                                                      
Senator Loren Leman moved for adoption.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman moved to amend the amendment on page 1                                                                      
line 3 after "interagency receipts" to insert "from the                                                                         
Department of Environmental Conservation from federal non-                                                                      
point source pollution funds".                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He noted that the federal allocations are for Section 319                                                                       
projects and that this amendment corresponds to the                                                                             
operating budget through an amendment he had submitted to                                                                       
the Conference Committee to reduce the amount of non-point                                                                      
source pollution grants.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams asked if this amendment to the amendment                                                                       
would result in any restrictions regarding expenditures of                                                                      
the funds. Co-Chair John Torgerson wanted to know if the                                                                        
Administration requested this change.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA FRANK, Director, Division of Administrative                                                                             
Services, Department of Environmental Conservation came to                                                                      
the table and testified that the department did not propose                                                                     
the amendment but the uses are consistent with the Section                                                                      
319 projects. Senator Loren Leman interjected saying the                                                                        
amendment to the amendment was offered at the request of a                                                                      
high-ranking employee of the department.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams asked if there are restrictions attached                                                                       
to the non-point pollution funds.  Barbara Frank responded                                                                      
that the allocations are within the perimeters of the fund.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if this would                                                                             
increase the general fund obligation in the next fiscal                                                                         
year. Senator Loren Leman didn't think so and said this                                                                         
appropriation is for specific projects. He reminded the                                                                         
Committee that the funds were originally distributed to                                                                         
different projects, but at the request of the departments,                                                                      
some of the funds are now redirected to these high-priority                                                                     
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amendment was AMENDED and the                                                                            
amended amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #10: This amendment adds $25,000 general funds for                                                                        
Hope Community Resources fire Suppression Sprinkler System                                                                      
and $34,500 general funds for Alaska Center for the Blind                                                                       
Fire Suppression Sprinkler System. Senator Dave Donley                                                                          
moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected.                                                                           
Senator Dave Donley spoke of the earlier request from the                                                                       
AK Center for the Blind and the Hope center for sprinkler                                                                       
systems.  This amendment would address both requests.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green stated she did not support the amendment                                                                     
and was bothered by the fund source.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams supported the amendment however he was                                                                         
concerned about the diversion of funds from AHFC senior                                                                         
housing deferred maintenance projects and recommended                                                                           
reinstating at least half of the funds.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken asked if the remaining appropriations                                                                       
listed on line 5 page 21 of the committee substitute would                                                                      
be available for similar projects. Senator Dave Donley                                                                          
affirmed and stressed that he believed the fire suppression                                                                     
systems are fair and necessary requests.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 6-3 the amendment was ADOPTED. Senator Lyda                                                                        
Green, Senator Gary Wilken and Senator Pete Kelly cast nay                                                                      
votes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #11: This amendment reduces the amount of general                                                                         
funds appropriated to the Cordova Mile 17 Landfill                                                                              
Construction to $1,745,000 and adds a new section relating                                                                      
to the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Restoration Fund and the                                                                          
appropriation of $215,000 from the settlement fund to the                                                                       
landfill project. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption.                                                                      
Senator Lyda Green objected. Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                            
explained this amendment would reappropriate income accrued                                                                     
from the Exxon fund to the Cordova landfill construction                                                                        
project and frees money from the general fund.  In the                                                                          
past, the Exxon funds were used for similar projects but                                                                        
had to meet certain criteria and be located in the spill                                                                        
area, according to Co-Chair John Torgerson.  He said that                                                                       
the Cordova landfill is the only project in the FY 00                                                                           
budget that meets the criteria.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green asked if the settlement judgement is                                                                         
currently under appeal. Co-Chair John Torgerson answered it                                                                     
is not, that this fund source is interest earned off the                                                                        
criminal settlement.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley wanted to know if this funding change                                                                       
frees federal match funds.  Co-Chair John Torgerson said it                                                                     
does not and that it only replaces a portion of the general                                                                     
fund needed to construct the project.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green removed her objection and the amendment                                                                      
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #12: This amendment appropriates $500,000 general                                                                         
funds for the Ketchikan Juvenile Detention Center and is                                                                        
contingent on receipt of at least $250,000 from the Mental                                                                      
Health Trust Authority. Senator Sean Parnell moved for                                                                          
adoption. Senator Al Adams objected.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams asked if the amendment language contains a                                                                     
binding stipulation on the receipt of MHTA receipts. Co-                                                                        
Chair John Torgerson responded that he did not intend to                                                                        
support this amendment and therefore had not considered a                                                                       
stipulation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ROBIN TAYLOR came to the table to speak to the                                                                          
request saying this is the final funding increment                                                                              
necessary to complete the juvenile detention facility in                                                                        
Ketchikan. He spoke of the millions spent on the Johnson                                                                        
Youth Center in Juneau noting that approximately fifty-                                                                         
percent of the residents are from southern Southeast                                                                            
Alaska. He stated that prior commitments to fund a facility                                                                     
in Ketchikan were not fulfilled and as a result, the City                                                                       
of Ketchikan is willing to contribute between $500,000 to                                                                       
$750,000 in matching funds. He also noted that if the                                                                           
general funds were appropriated, the Mental Health Trust                                                                        
Authority would contribute $250,000 since it will utilize                                                                       
the facility as well. He stressed that if the facility is                                                                       
not completed, youths will continue to be transported from                                                                      
the Ketchikan area into Juneau.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 4-5.                                                                            
Senator Dave Donley, Senator Loren Leman, Senator Lyda                                                                          
Green and Senator Randy Phillips voted in favor.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #13: This amendment inserts $331,400 general funds                                                                        
and appropriates $2,641,200 federal funds for Ketchikan                                                                         
Shipyard Facility Development.  Senator Sean Parnell moved                                                                      
for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected. Senator Al                                                                      
Adams asked what was the recommendation of the Subcommittee                                                                     
on this item.  Senator Dave Donley replied that the project                                                                     
was not discussed because the request was submitted past                                                                        
the deadline for consideration.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robin Taylor indicated that the project was not                                                                         
submitted until three weeks prior and therefore the                                                                             
Subcommittee did not have an opportunity to fully review                                                                        
it. He noted that the City of Ketchikan is willing to                                                                           
contribute an equal amount of funding as requested from the                                                                     
state to pay for improvements to the state-owned facility.                                                                      
He understood that the Department of Transportation and                                                                         
Public Facilities, Division of Marine Highways strongly                                                                         
supports this project.  He stressed that the funding is a                                                                       
90-10 match with the state contributing only ten percent                                                                        
and that he understood 90-10 projects would be funded in                                                                        
this year's budget. He asked that this project be given the                                                                     
same consideration as the Governor's requested projects.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson pointed out that if money were put                                                                      
into this project, funds would have to be removed from                                                                          
another project elsewhere.  Therefore, he opposed the                                                                           
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman asked if this project dislodges other                                                                       
federal funds. Senator Robin Taylor answered that the funds                                                                     
are lost if not matched.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley wanted to know if the federal money for                                                                     
this project comes from a US Corps of Engineers fund.                                                                           
Senator Robin Taylor replied that it is not.  Senator Dave                                                                      
Donley stated that he was unfamiliar with any harbor                                                                            
projects funded under the TEA 21 program. He said the other                                                                     
harbor projects considered by the Subcommittee qualify for                                                                      
US Corps of Engineers funding and are not a 90-10 match but                                                                     
instead are limited only by the amount of the match                                                                             
contribution.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robin Taylor responded that this project is very                                                                        
specific and the city is willing to match the state's                                                                           
funds.  He felt that if the project were brought up in                                                                          
time, it would have been included in the Governor's budget.                                                                     
He pointed out that the Committee diverted funds from the                                                                       
deferred maintenance account for another project submitted                                                                      
late. He emphasized that he hated to see the federal money                                                                      
lost.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams recalled that the Committee put adequate                                                                       
funds into last year's appropriation for this project. Kurt                                                                     
Parkan said only the federal funds were appropriated last                                                                       
year. He added that this was a high priority project of                                                                         
Alaska's congressional delegation the prior year. However,                                                                      
he noted there is a 20 percent match requirement, which was                                                                     
not included in the FY99 state's budget. He said this                                                                           
amendment would fulfill the match requirement because the                                                                       
city is contributing half the needed amount. He explained                                                                       
that the federal appropriation is unlike most                                                                                   
appropriations that are lost if the match money is not                                                                          
produced by a certain date. The federal funds for this                                                                          
project are available indefinitely because of the high                                                                          
priority of the project, according to Kurt Parkan.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green wanted to know if this is a Department                                                                       
of Commerce and Economic Development project.  Senator                                                                          
Robin Taylor responded that it is because AIDEA operates                                                                        
the facility, leasing it from the state.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken expressed regret that the project did                                                                       
not come before the Committee earlier. He asked if there                                                                        
are other projects in the sponsor's district that the                                                                           
sponsor could reprioritize to allow for this project.                                                                           
Senator Robin Taylor stressed there are many 90-10 projects                                                                     
across the state and pointed out that another project the                                                                       
Committee added to the budget does not have a 90-10 match.                                                                      
He apologized for the lateness of the project.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams suggested changing the funding source from                                                                     
general funds to AIDEA funds since the project pertains to                                                                      
economic development.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 5:52PM / 8:08PM                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robin Taylor answered Senator Loren Leman' question                                                                     
about whether this project would "exceed authority", saying                                                                     
the Department of Transportation and Public Utilities                                                                           
determined this is a unique project.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley's understanding was that if this                                                                            
amendment did not pass today, the federal funds would not                                                                       
lapse and would be available the next year.  Co-Chair John                                                                      
Torgerson had the same understanding.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 2-7.                                                                            
Senator Loren Leman and Senator Al Adams voted in favor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #14: This amendment inserts $500,000 general funds                                                                        
for Wrangell Heritage Harbor Project. Senator Sean Parnell                                                                      
moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected for                                                                        
the same reason he objected to the previous amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robin Taylor restated his assertion that funding                                                                        
should be granted for 90-10 match projects. He testified                                                                        
that this $13 million dollar project only recently received                                                                     
approval from the federal government for $11,700,000. He                                                                        
added that the City of Wrangell will provide six percent of                                                                     
the required match, and the state will only need to provide                                                                     
four percent. He emphasized that this is a major economic                                                                       
development project.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 3-6, the amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams, Senator Dave Donley and Senator Loren                                                                         
Leman cast yea votes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #15: This amendment inserts a new section relating to                                                                     
appropriations from the Constitutional Budget Reserve                                                                           
(CBR). It increases the CBR appropriation for FY99                                                                              
expenditures from $900,000,001 to $1,050,000,000 and                                                                            
inserts an FY00 appropriation amount not to exceed                                                                              
$1,007,000,000. Senator Sean Parnell moved to adopt.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell then moved to amend the amendment to                                                                       
increase the FY99 appropriation amount (located on line 11                                                                      
of the amendment) to $1,100,000,000. He explained that CBR                                                                      
expenditures had already exceeded the $900 million and                                                                          
because of lower than anticipated corporate income tax                                                                          
receipts, additional funds are needed.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell then shared that the FY00 CBR                                                                              
appropriation is based on projections made in the Spring                                                                        
Revenue Forecast. He noted that the provision does not                                                                          
authorize an open-ended CBR withdrawal, but instead is an                                                                       
amount-certain.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was AMENDED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amended amendment was                                                                            
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 8:16PM / 8:17PM                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #16: This amendment extends the lapse date of the                                                                         
FY98 American Red Cross Grant to the Department of Military                                                                     
and Veterans Affairs for Disaster Planning and Control to                                                                       
June 30, 2000. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #17: This amendment appropriates general funds to the                                                                     
Department of Administration: $2,423.29, Department of Fish                                                                     
and Game: $1,952.90 and the Department of Law: $1,189.20 to                                                                     
pay miscellaneous claims and stale-dated warrants for FY                                                                        
99. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption. He explained                                                                       
that this amendment is for funds in addition to those                                                                           
appropriated in the FY99 Supplemental budget and was made                                                                       
at the request of the Office of Management and Budget.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips commented that the law requires the                                                                      
funds to be appropriated retroactively.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #18: This amendment appropriates $100,000 general                                                                         
funds to the Department of Law and $100,000 to the Alaska                                                                       
Legislative Council for costs associated with the proposed                                                                      
BP Amoco/ARCO merger for FY99 and FY00. Senator Sean                                                                            
Parnell moved for adoption. He stated that both Senator                                                                         
Rick Halford and Senator Drue Pearce supported the                                                                              
amendment and that he believed the funding will help the                                                                        
Administration and the Legislature send a strong message                                                                        
showing that Alaskans have a stake in the merger.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley supported the amendment but had a                                                                           
question on the status of the Conference Committee's                                                                            
efforts in reallocating funds from the Oil and Gas                                                                              
Litigation Section. He wanted to know if reductions could                                                                       
be made, citing that testimony in budget hearings showed                                                                        
funds given to the Section were "really soft".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell agreed with Senator Dave Donley's                                                                          
assessment and added that there was another argument in                                                                         
favor of using permanent fund receipts to address the                                                                           
merger.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell WITHDREW his motion to adopt and                                                                           
requested the amendment be HELD. There was no objection.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #19: This amendment appropriates $30,000 general                                                                          
funds to the Department of Law for costs relating to the                                                                        
Glacier Bay-Tongass Submerged Lands Quiet Title Litigation                                                                      
for FY99. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption and                                                                           
explained this is a supplemental request sponsored by                                                                           
Senator Rick Halford and Senator Jerry Mackie. Senator Sean                                                                     
Parnell urged the members' support for the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if this amendment is                                                                      
in the same category as FRONT #18.  Senator Dave Donley                                                                         
pointed out this is a supplemental budget request and is                                                                        
somewhat different.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley lamented that while he chaired the                                                                          
budget Subcommittee, the Department of Law never came to                                                                        
him with this request.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
With no objection, Senator Sean Parnell WITHDREW his motion                                                                     
and the amendment was HELD until the sponsors could address                                                                     
the Committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley asked if there was written backup                                                                           
accompanying the amendment. Senator Sean Parnell replied                                                                        
that he had a memorandum but it was not with him.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 8:23PM / 8:33PM                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #18: This was the second consideration for this                                                                           
amendment. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption. He                                                                          
stated that he did not have backup available relating to                                                                        
the possible use of permanent fund receipts but he wished                                                                       
the amendment to be considered on its merits as is.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams asked if sufficient funds were not already                                                                     
provided to the Legislative Council in the operating budget                                                                     
to address matters similar to the BP-ARCO merger. Senator                                                                       
Sean Parnell's understanding was that the legislature did                                                                       
not.  He stated that both the legislature and the governor                                                                      
have a vested interest in ensuring accurate information and                                                                     
quality legal expertise relating to the merger.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED without objection.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #19: This was the second consideration of this                                                                            
amendment. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BRETT HUBER, staff to Senator Rick Halford, addressed the                                                                       
Committee.  He said that in looking at the department's                                                                         
need for FY99, an additional $30,000 was required.                                                                              
Alternate funding sources had been discussed but it was                                                                         
determined that the matter fell outside the scope of the                                                                        
Oil and Gas Litigation Section, according to Brett Huber.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #20: This amendment adds a new section stipulating                                                                        
that federal or other program receipts that exceed the                                                                          
amounts appropriated in FY98 are appropriated to FY99,                                                                          
conditioned upon compliance with the program review                                                                             
provisions. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DAVID TEAL, Director, Division of Legislative Finance                                                                           
explained the language is typical in every capital bill                                                                         
with the exception of the previous year's bill, which it                                                                        
was omitted.  He said there were some technical problems in                                                                     
transferring funds because of the omission. This amendment                                                                      
will correct the matter and be retroactive.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 8:37PM / 8:45PM                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley objected to the motion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 7-2, the amendment was ADOPTED. Senator Dave                                                                       
Donley and Senator Loren Leman voted in opposition.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
LAW #1: This amendment extends the lapse date to June 30,                                                                       
2000 of a $300,000 general fund appropriation for                                                                               
additional costs associated with court challenges to the                                                                        
statutes dealing with medical procedures and parental                                                                           
consent for abortions. Senator Sean Parnell moved for                                                                           
adoption and explained the amendment was offered at the                                                                         
request of the department. Senator Loren Leman asked if the                                                                     
funds are used for outside council. Senator Sean Parnell                                                                        
was unsure.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA RICHIE, Deputy Attorney General, Civil Division,                                                                        
Department of Law explained that the funds are not for                                                                          
outside council and that the cases are being handled by the                                                                     
Office of Special Prosecutions and Appeals. She noted that                                                                      
the case in question is currently pending before the                                                                            
Supreme Court.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell said he had understood the                                                                                 
appropriation was for outside council. He then WITHDREW his                                                                     
motion to adopt the amendment.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION (Continued from earlier in the                                                                     
meeting.)                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADM #7: This amendment appropriates $188,000 general funds                                                                      
to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (AOGCC)                                                                       
and $100,000 general funds to the Longevity Bonus Grant                                                                         
Program for increased operating costs for FY99. Senator                                                                         
Sean Parnell moved for adoption and explained this is a                                                                         
supplemental request submitted by the department. He had                                                                        
spoken to the Commissioner regarding the AOGCC request and                                                                      
learned that if the additional funds are not appropriated,                                                                      
the Commission will close beginning June 4, 1999. Given the                                                                     
importance of the BP-ARCO merger and the role of the                                                                            
Commission, Senator Sean Parnell recommended the additional                                                                     
funds be approved.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman asked for an explanation on the second                                                                      
portion of the amendment regarding the longevity bonus                                                                          
program. Annalee McConnell explained that the funds                                                                             
requested are based on a projection of the amount needed to                                                                     
pay the last longevity bonus payment in FY99.  She said                                                                         
that the projections indicate the program will run out of                                                                       
money in the eleventh month.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley moved to DIVIDE the question. ADM #7A                                                                       
contains the appropriation to the AOGCC and ADM #7B                                                                             
contains the Longevity Bonus Grant Program appropriation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Tape: SFC - 99 #129, Side B    8:50PM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADM #7A: By a vote of 7-2, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
Senator Randy Phillips and Senator Dave Donley cast nay                                                                         
votes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ADM #7B: Without objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips questioned why the supplemental                                                                          
items and other operating items are included in this                                                                            
capital bill. Senator Sean Parnell explained that the                                                                           
practice of considering supplemental requests for inclusion                                                                     
in the capital budget has always been done because this                                                                         
budget is the final appropriation bill for the session.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley commented to his concerns with the                                                                          
appropriation to the AOGCC made with the last amendment. He                                                                     
ascertained that the agency overspent its budget without                                                                        
making any reductions even with the knowledge that the                                                                          
money was running out. He felt that the threat to close                                                                         
down the agency if more funds are not approved sets a bad                                                                       
example and could result in other agencies using the same                                                                       
strategy next year. Because of this, he concluded that the                                                                      
request should have been made to the Committee during the                                                                       
regular supplemental process and if additional funds were                                                                       
not approved, reductions should be made accordingly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell understood the concerns but shared                                                                         
that he learned from Cammy Oechsli, a Commissioner with                                                                         
AOGCC, that a request was submitted to the Department of                                                                        
Administration but was never forwarded to the Legislature                                                                       
by the Office of Management and Budget. Therefore, he                                                                           
learned about the matter after the supplemental process was                                                                     
complete.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley wanted the special circumstances of                                                                         
this situation made clear on the record. He hoped that                                                                          
other omissions of the Office of Management and Budget                                                                          
would not result in an influx of similar requests in the                                                                        
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES (Continued from earlier in                                                                      
the meeting.)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DNR #10: This amendment inserts intent language directing                                                                       
the department to contract with appropriate entities to                                                                         
develop snowmobile trails, safety and education programs.                                                                       
The language also stipulates that funds appropriated for                                                                        
this purpose are not to be spent on additional staff in the                                                                     
department. Senator Lyda Green moved for adoption.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams moved to AMEND the amendment. The amended                                                                      
amendment directs the department to develop "rural" trails.                                                                     
Without discussion or objection, he WITHDREW his motion to                                                                      
amend the amendment. Senator Dave Donley noted that almost                                                                      
one-half million dollars are appropriated for rural trails                                                                      
in the TRAAK portion of this budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection, and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC UTILITIES                                                                               
(Continued from earlier in the meeting.)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DOT #13: This amendment inserts a new section that                                                                              
allocates general and federal funding in specific amounts                                                                       
to specific AMATS projects. It also replaces three other                                                                        
sections relating to effective dates and stipulates that                                                                        
the appropriation section takes effect on the day after the                                                                     
Commissioner publishes public notice of a proposal to amend                                                                     
the STIP to reflect the specific projects indicated in this                                                                     
amendment. The provisions in this amendment are similar to                                                                      
those in DOT #14 and #15. Senator Dave Donley moved for                                                                         
adoption and explained this amendment is the result of                                                                          
joint efforts to amend the STIP to enforce legislative                                                                          
intent. By withholding the effective date until the                                                                             
appropriation provisions of the amendment are published, he                                                                     
hoped the projects requested by the legislature would be                                                                        
addressed through the public process. He stated that the                                                                        
process would not be delayed because the only extra work                                                                        
required of the department is the public notice.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley clarified for Senator Al Adams's                                                                            
benefit that this amendment only relates the Anchorage STIP                                                                     
projects. The next two amendments address the CIP and                                                                           
TRAAK.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
KURT PARKAN told the Committee that the recently submitted                                                                      
amendments were distributed after federal highway personnel                                                                     
had gone home and so they had no opportunity to review the                                                                      
changes. However, he stressed that in principle, the                                                                            
provisions are inconsistent with federal regulations and                                                                        
could jeopardize federal funding. He explained that the                                                                         
state has only one vote out of five members on the AMATS                                                                        
Policy Committee that determines which projects will be                                                                         
undertaken. Therefore to stipulate that the Commissioner                                                                        
must insert specific projects when he did not have that                                                                         
authority is inconsistent with federal regulations.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley moved to AMEND the amendment to insert,                                                                     
"the AMATS Policy Committee authorizes" on page 1 line 5                                                                        
following, "the day after the". The amended amendment also                                                                      
changes language on line six from, "facilities publishes"                                                                       
to "facilities to publish" for grammatical clarification.                                                                       
The section now stipulates that the Commissioner must                                                                           
submit the amendment's specific project list for public                                                                         
comment after receiving authorization from the AMATS Policy                                                                     
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams pointed out that the AMATS Policy                                                                              
Committee has two members who are appointed by the                                                                              
legislature and he wondered if this amendment is to take                                                                        
effect before or after the next appointments are made. It                                                                       
was determined that the appointment legislation was not                                                                         
before the Committee at this time and the question went                                                                         
unanswered. Co-Chair John Torgerson stated that the                                                                             
membership of the AMATS Policy Committee has no affect on                                                                       
this amendment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green wanted the sponsor to explain why the                                                                        
provision is desired.  Senator Dave Donley related that in                                                                      
the previous year, the Legislature had added several                                                                            
projects but that the AMATS Policy Committee never                                                                              
considered those projects. In addition he stated, the                                                                           
Legislature added contingent language relating to a 15th                                                                        
Avenue project requesting public hearings, which was also                                                                       
ignored. He pointed out that the reconstruction of that                                                                         
street displaced the Alano Club and resulted in the club's                                                                      
$600,000 request to the Legislature for funds to construct                                                                      
a new facility. He felt this and other actions demonstrated                                                                     
the department's disregard for legislative intent and that                                                                      
this amendment would require the department to participate                                                                      
in a public process before receiving funding. He pointed                                                                        
out that the amendment does not require the department to                                                                       
institute the appropriations made in the amendment, only to                                                                     
follow a public process in considering them.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green asked if this amendment applies only to                                                                      
the initial stage of projects or if it applies to on-going                                                                      
projects as well.  Senator Dave Donley replied that this                                                                        
provision applies only to the specific projects listed in                                                                       
this section of the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams referred to DOT #13, #14 and #15 and                                                                           
wanted to know if any of the listed projects could be                                                                           
jeopardized, delayed or hampered because of an                                                                                  
inconsistency with federal regulations. He was concerned                                                                        
that even with the amendment to the amendment, the federal                                                                      
funding could be delayed. Curt Parkan replied that it is                                                                        
conceivable that these projects could be jeopardized.                                                                           
However, it would be unknown until the federal highway                                                                          
employees could review and advise on the matter.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was AMENDED by a vote of 7-2. Senator Al                                                                          
Adams and Senator Lyda Green cast nay votes. The amended                                                                        
amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 6-3. Senator Al Adams,                                                                       
Senator Pete Kelly and Senator Lyda Green voted in                                                                              
opposition.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DOT #14: This amendment inserts a new section that                                                                              
allocates general and federal funding of specific amounts                                                                       
to specific STIP (except AMATS) projects. It also replaces                                                                      
three other sections relating to effective dates and                                                                            
stipulates that the appropriation section takes effect on                                                                       
the day after the Commissioner publishes public notice of a                                                                     
proposal to amend the STIP to reflect the specific projects                                                                     
indicated in this amendment. The provisions in this                                                                             
amendment are similar to those in DOT #13 and #15. Senator                                                                      
Dave Donley moved for adoption. Senator Al Adams objected.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley explained this amendment is a parallel                                                                      
amendment that deals with the Community Transportation                                                                          
Program (CTP) section of the STIP. He noted that the AMATS                                                                      
Policy Committee is not involved in these proposed projects                                                                     
and therefore, their participation in the public notice                                                                         
process is not necessary. He pointed out that this                                                                              
amendment includes a change to the Sitka Harbor Way                                                                             
Reconstruction/O'Connell Bridge project.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams asked, if because it is unknown whether                                                                        
the "public notice" stipulation will meet federal                                                                               
requirements for the AMATS projects, is it necessary to                                                                         
insert the same provision into the CTP projects. Kurt                                                                           
Parkan responded that the department feels the stipulation                                                                      
is not necessary. He commented that the stipulation                                                                             
requires public notice but does not necessarily require                                                                         
that all the proposed projects be added to the STIP.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson said this amendment is another                                                                          
attempt to force the Department of Transportation and                                                                           
Public Facilities to do the projects set forth in the                                                                           
capital budget appropriated by the legislature and signed                                                                       
into law by the governor. He spoke to the ranking system                                                                        
employed by the department pointing out that department                                                                         
refuses to undertake some projects even though funding is                                                                       
appropriated by the legislature. He stressed that this                                                                          
amendment requires the department to start the process by                                                                       
amending the STIP. He noted this is the forth year in a row                                                                     
such an attempt has been made. He hoped this method would                                                                       
be successful because the effective language cannot be                                                                          
vetoed from the capital bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams opposed the amendment and thought the                                                                          
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities did a                                                                        
good job with rural Alaska roads and airports. Co-Chair                                                                         
John Torgerson countered that the department made the same                                                                      
promises in rural Alaska as in urban areas that have not                                                                        
been followed through. He added that this project list                                                                          
contains some projects requested by rural legislators that                                                                      
have not been fulfilled.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green still did not see how this amendment                                                                         
would accomplish the goal of making the department address                                                                      
specific projects. She suggested the department could                                                                           
publish a public notice but never follow through with                                                                           
changes. Co-Chair John Torgerson and Senator Dave Donley                                                                        
agreed that is possible, but Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                            
repeated this will prevent the department from completely                                                                       
ignoring the legislature's directives.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley explained the amendment begins the                                                                          
public information process for working toward an amendment                                                                      
in the STIP that is necessary to implement the legislative                                                                      
intent. He said this is an improvement of the previous                                                                          
year's process, which ignored the legislative intent and                                                                        
did not allow public comment on the changes the legislature                                                                     
proposed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson stated that if this amendment does                                                                      
not work; another attempt will be made next year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 7-2. Senator Lyda                                                                        
Green and Senator Al Adams cast nay votes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DOT #15: This amendment inserts a new section that                                                                              
allocates general and federal funding of specific amounts                                                                       
to specific TRAAK projects. It also replaces three other                                                                        
sections relating to effective dates and stipulates that                                                                        
the appropriation section takes effect on the day after the                                                                     
Commissioner publishes public notice of a proposal to amend                                                                     
the STIP to reflect the specific projects indicated in this                                                                     
amendment. The provisions in this amendment are similar to                                                                      
those in DOT #13 and #14. Senator Dave Donley moved for                                                                         
adoption. Senator Al Adams objected.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if the department had                                                                     
the information he requested regarding the history of funds                                                                     
spent on TRAAK projects across the state.  Kurt Parkan did,                                                                     
and the information was handed out.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 7-2, the amendment was ADOPTED. Senator Lyda                                                                       
Green and Senator Al Adams voted against the motion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEC #1: This amendment replaces $10,365,868 general funds                                                                       
with AHFC receipts for Village Safe Water Grants. It also                                                                       
reduces the general fund allocation from $8,364,900 to                                                                          
1,289,818 and adds $6,860,082 AHFC receipts for Municipal                                                                       
Matching Grant Program reducing the total appropriation to                                                                      
$17,949,200. Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption.                                                                           
Senator Al Adams objected. Co-Chair John Torgerson                                                                              
explained this is a funding source change.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams wanted to know the impact of removing an                                                                       
additional $52 million from the AHFC. Annalee McConnell                                                                         
said she was calculating to see if this appropriation goes                                                                      
above the total amount available from AHFC. Co-Chair John                                                                       
Torgerson stated that according to the Division of                                                                              
Legislative Finance, it does not, but that a conforming                                                                         
amendment would be made to allow adjustments if necessary.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams removed his objection and the amendment                                                                        
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:18PM / 9:32PM                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION (Continued from earlier in the                                                                     
meeting.)                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADM #4: This amendment adds $250,000 general funds for                                                                          
Bethel Courthouse Transfer. Senator Al Adams moved for                                                                          
adoption. Senator John Torgerson, Senator Sean Parnell and                                                                      
Senator Lyda Green objected. Senator Al Adams spoke to the                                                                      
efforts the local community made to raise a portion of the                                                                      
funds needed to remodel the city office building, add                                                                           
additional square footage and bring the building up to Y2K                                                                      
standards. He read a statement in support of the amendment,                                                                     
saying the upgrades are necessary for the operation of the                                                                      
Court System, Department of Corrections, Department of Law,                                                                     
Department of Environmental Conservation, the Recording                                                                         
Office and other agencies housed in the facility. He stated                                                                     
that the remodel would create efficiencies for the public                                                                       
and cost less over time for the agencies. He noted the                                                                          
agencies have agreed to the lease requirements with the                                                                         
City of Bethel. However, the cost of moving into the                                                                            
building is not part of the lease agreement and needs to be                                                                     
financed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson maintained his objection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 1-8.                                                                            
Senator Al Adams voted in favor.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (Continued                                                                      
from earlier in the meeting.)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CED #2: This amendment increases the appropriation for the                                                                      
Kodiak Launch Complex from $5 million to $6 million in                                                                          
other funds to correspond to the front section of the bill.                                                                     
Senator Sean Parnell moved for adoption. Co-Chair John                                                                          
Torgerson explained no technical adjustment was needed to                                                                       
this amendment as earlier mentioned.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CED #5: This amendment deletes $5,000,000 other funds for                                                                       
the Kodiak Launch Complex from the front section of the                                                                         
committee substitute. Co-Chair John Torgerson stated he                                                                         
would NOT OFFER the amendment, due to action taken on CED                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRA #1: This amendment adds $350,000 other funds for Flood                                                                      
Mitigation Assistance Grants. Senator Pete Kelly moved for                                                                      
adoption and explained this is a federal fund                                                                                   
authorization. Co-Chair John Torgerson pointed out that                                                                         
this amendment is totally federal funded with no impact on                                                                      
the general fund.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman wanted to know where the funds go and                                                                       
if they are spent on small projects across the state.                                                                           
[Inaudible answer]                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CRA #2: This amendment appropriates $75,000 general funds                                                                       
for Arctic Winter Games Team Alaska. Senator Randy Phillips                                                                     
moved for adoption. Senator Gary Wilken objected and asked                                                                      
what amount was funded the prior year. Senator Randy                                                                            
Phillips answered it was $125,000.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 7-2. Senator Lyda                                                                        
Green and Senator Gary Wilken voted in opposition.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES (Continued from earlier in                                                                      
the meeting.)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DNR #3: This amendment was NOT OFFERRED deferring to DNR                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DNR #4: This amendment was NOT OFFERRED deferring to DNR                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DNR #8: This amendment pertaining to Perseverance Trail                                                                         
emergency repairs had been held earlier in the meeting.                                                                         
Senator Al Adams moved for adoption and noted a letter from                                                                     
the City and Borough of Juneau handed out by Senator Sean                                                                       
Parnell.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell spoke about his efforts to transfer                                                                        
ownership of the trail to the municipality because it is                                                                        
located on borough land rather than state or federal land.                                                                      
He stated that the legislature appropriated money for other                                                                     
repairs to the trail in the past with a contingency that                                                                        
the trail is turned over to the city upon completion. He                                                                        
noted the repairs were done without the use of state funds                                                                      
and yet the state still had ownership of the trail. He                                                                          
referred to the aforementioned letter where the city                                                                            
manager wrote, "These repairs would address the major                                                                           
safety concerns of this portion of the trail. In return,                                                                        
the city would take over ownership and maintenance of the                                                                       
repaired portion of the trail. Expenditure of the                                                                               
appropriation would be contingent upon agreement between                                                                        
the State and CBJ to take over ownership and maintenance.."                                                                     
Senator Sean Parnell stressed that this is the first time                                                                       
the legislature has had anything in writing from the city                                                                       
promising to take over ownership of the trail. He pointed                                                                       
out the net zero affect the amendment has on the general                                                                        
fund and he urged the Committee's support.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell also pointed out that the original                                                                         
request of $134,000 was reduced to $48,500 through the use                                                                      
of volunteer and donated labor and equipment secured by                                                                         
Trail Mix, Inc. He referred to a letter before members from                                                                     
Trail Mix, Inc. detailing the projected expenditures.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell added that by granting ownership to                                                                        
the city, the state is relieved of the responsibility of                                                                        
maintenance of the trail.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips wanted to know if this appropriation                                                                     
would take funds from other state park emergency repairs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
NICO BUS, Administrative Services Manager, Division of                                                                          
Support Services, Department of Natural Resources,                                                                              
responded that the department will have to reprioritize                                                                         
other projects to accommodate this reduction. Senator Randy                                                                     
Phillips asked if he had a current priority list of the                                                                         
projects. Nico Bus did not.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green wanted to know if another request would                                                                      
be made the next year before the city will assume                                                                               
ownership.  Senator Sean Parnell said that was up to the                                                                        
city and the legislative body on whether to approve an                                                                          
additional request.  He remarked that earlier requests had                                                                      
been denied because of the high expense and the                                                                                 
municipality's requirement that the entire trail be                                                                             
repaired before accepting ownership. His intent with this                                                                       
amendment is to do repairs at the minimal safety level. It                                                                      
would be up to the legislature to decide future funding, he                                                                     
concluded.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams noted there was a representative of the                                                                        
city present.  Co-Chair John Torgerson didn't know what                                                                         
capacity the representative held.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CLARK GREUNING, lobbyist, spoke to his understanding of the                                                                     
city assembly's desire to eventually assume ownership of                                                                        
all downtown area trails. He also believed the intent is to                                                                     
one day take over responsibility for all trails located                                                                         
within the borough. He noted that the portion of the trail                                                                      
this amendment will address is a high-maintenance area that                                                                     
experienced a washout last fall. He spoke of the reduction                                                                      
in the original request made in the FY99 Supplemental                                                                           
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson asked if there would be a                                                                               
supplemental request next year. Clark Gruening replied that                                                                     
a request could be submitted as part of a future capital                                                                        
budget for a different part of the trial and also have a                                                                        
transfer of ownership contingency.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Nico Bus had a list of identified state park emergency                                                                          
repairs projects that he would make available.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 8-1, the amendment was ADOPTED. Senator Randy                                                                      
Phillips cast the nay vote.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE (Continued from earlier in the                                                                            
meeting.)                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REV #1: This amendment appropriates $2,315,300 AHFC                                                                             
receipts, allocating $1,100,000 to Wasilla Senior Housing                                                                       
and $1,215,300 to Talkeetna Senior Housing. Senator Lyda                                                                        
Green moved for adoption. Co-Chair John Torgerson objected.                                                                     
Senator Lyda Green spoke to the amendment, saying it                                                                            
pertains to two senior housing projects in the Mat-Su                                                                           
Valley, which are supported by fund raising efforts. She                                                                        
stated that substantial amounts of money are tied to the                                                                        
projects and is contingent upon receipt of this AHFC                                                                            
funding. Some of the funds will be lost without this match,                                                                     
she warned.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams stated that he tried to obtain funding for                                                                     
these projects with REV #5, which funds the entire senior                                                                       
housing component. While he supported the Wasilla area                                                                          
projects, he said he didn't believe they should be singled                                                                      
out at the expense of the others.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman asked if Senator Lyda Green knew why                                                                        
the cost of the facilities is so high. He thought that                                                                          
$200,000 per unit seems higher than it should be. Senator                                                                       
Lyda Green noted this amount covers the costs starting from                                                                     
ground zero including road access, site prep, utilities,                                                                        
etc.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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The amendment FAILED to be adopted by a vote of 2-7.                                                                            
Senator Loren Leman and Senator Lyda Green voted in favor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA (Continued from earlier in the                                                                             
meeting.)                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
UNV #1: This amendment was addressed earlier in the meeting                                                                     
and appropriates $800,000 university receipts for Juneau                                                                        
PE/Recreation Facility. Co-Chair John Torgerson stated he                                                                       
would NOT OFFER this amendment.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
UNV #7: This amendment was also heard earlier in the                                                                            
meeting and appropriates $800,000 university receipts for                                                                       
Juneau PE/Recreation Facility as well. Senator Al Adams                                                                         
moved for adoption. Senator Sean Parnell objected. Senator                                                                      
Al Adams said this amendment uses university receipts to                                                                        
finance the construction of a recreation facility. He noted                                                                     
similar facilities are located on the Fairbanks and                                                                             
Anchorage campuses and the legislature has the ability to                                                                       
build one in Juneau. He stressed that no general funds are                                                                      
used.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips asked if the program receipts are                                                                        
generated by the Juneau campus or statewide.  Senator Al                                                                        
Adams believed the revenues come from the Juneau campus.                                                                        
Senator Randy Phillips requested a representative from the                                                                      
university come to the table to verify that.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WENDY REDMOND, Vice President, University Relations,                                                                            
University of Alaska said the revenues are expected to come                                                                     
from student fees as is done on the other campuses. She                                                                         
stressed that this is a very limited facility that will                                                                         
house a running track and some basketball courts.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley asked how $800,000 could possibly be                                                                        
raised in only one year.  Wendy Redmond said it would not                                                                       
be raised in one year, that a revenue bond would be issued                                                                      
and additional student fees will pay for the facility for                                                                       
many years into the future. She added that there are a                                                                          
couple other funding ideas including the sale of the Bill                                                                       
Ray Center.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson remained opposed to the amendment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green asked if this amendment failed and if                                                                        
the Bill Ray Center were sold, would the proceeds of the                                                                        
sale have to fund a capital project. Wendy Redmond replied                                                                      
that in either case, revenues from the building sale would                                                                      
have to be reappropriated as university receipts.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley asked how the university expected to                                                                        
pay for the operating costs of the recreational facility.                                                                       
Wendy Redmond responded that all costs are considered,                                                                          
including the operating costs and debt service when                                                                             
determining the student fees. She noted the process is the                                                                      
same for the Fairbanks campus and is very successful.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Loren Leman asked what is the fee in Fairbanks.                                                                         
Wendy Redmond replied the current amount charged is $75 per                                                                     
semester. Senator Loren Leman wanted to know if every                                                                           
student pays the fee or only those who used the facility.                                                                       
Wendy Redmond answered that everyone must pay the fee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams moved to technically amend the amendment                                                                       
to change "general funds" to "university receipts". The                                                                         
amendment was AMENDED.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 3-6, the amended amendment FAILED to be                                                                            
adopted. Senator Loren Leman, Senator Al Adams and Senator                                                                      
Randy Phillips voted in favor.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC UTILITIES                                                                               
(Continued from earlier in the meeting.)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DOT #5: This amendment was held earlier in the meeting. It                                                                      
eliminates the appropriation distinctions for Trials and                                                                        
Recreational Access for Alaska (TRAAK) Category A:                                                                              
$12,528,663, Category B: $1,005,826 and Category C:                                                                             
$8,392,877, combines the funding into a single TRAAK                                                                            
appropriation of $22,175,799, and specifies certain                                                                             
projects and amounts to be spent on each. Senator Dave                                                                          
Donley moved for adoption. Senator Al Adams objected.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley reminded the Committee that this                                                                            
amendment had been held because Senator Randy Phillips                                                                          
requested information from the department regarding the                                                                         
locations of past projects. Senator Randy Phillips had the                                                                      
information and was ready to take action on the amendment.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The amendment was ADOPTED by a vote of 8-1. Senator Al                                                                          
Adams voted in opposition.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CONFORMING AMENDMENTS                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Conform Amend #1: This amendment instructs the Division of                                                                      
Legislative Finance and the Division of Legal Services to                                                                       
make necessary technical adjustments to ensure that all                                                                         
back section appropriations and language conform with the                                                                       
front section items. Senator Sean Parnell moved for                                                                             
adoption.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection, and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Conform Amend #2: This amendment stipulates, "that any                                                                          
adjustment to limit the AHFC receipt appropriation to the                                                                       
total of $52,628,300 be made to the Sanitation Grant                                                                            
identified in DEC #1 as discussed. The intent is to fully                                                                       
fund those sanitation grants, first with AHFC receipts and                                                                      
second with general funds." Senator Sean Parnell read the                                                                       
amendment language into the record and moved for adoption.                                                                      
Co-Chair John Torgerson explained the purpose of the                                                                            
amendment is to replace general funds with AHFC receipts                                                                        
for the Department of Environmental Conservation water                                                                          
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Sean Parnell moved to technically AMEND the                                                                             
amendment to change the amount to $52,638,300 and there was                                                                     
no objection.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Without objection, the amended amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 10:02PM / 10:17PM                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson verified the amendments with the                                                                        
Committee Secretary, the Division of Legislative Finance                                                                        
and the Office of Management and Budget. Everything                                                                             
appeared to be in order.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson announced the schedule for                                                                              
distribution of the new committee substitute, which should                                                                      
be available by 5:00 PM tomorrow.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson thanked Senator Dave Donley for his                                                                     
work as Subcommittee chair.  He believed this added more                                                                        
scrutiny to the process.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson thanked Tracy Carpenter from the                                                                        
Division of Legislative Finance and Terry Cramer from the                                                                       
Division of Legal Services and also Llewellyn Lutchansky                                                                        
from his office.                                                                                                                
.                                                                                                                               
Senator Sean Parnell offered a motion to move CS SB 32                                                                          
(FIN) as amended from committee. Senator Al Adams objected.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Al Adams made a statement denouncing the Capital                                                                        
Budget Subcommittee process as an obscene way of doing                                                                          
business, especially with the removal of funds from rural                                                                       
areas. He took special exception to the removal of $1.2                                                                         
million for the Port of Nome and the diversion of those                                                                         
funds into an urban project. While he believed both the                                                                         
Nome and Anchorage ports were good projects, he felt both                                                                       
should have been funded. He also criticized the elimination                                                                     
of the $4.8 million in federal funds for the                                                                                    
Nondalton/Iliamna Highway. He charged that the Subcommittee                                                                     
process was a hidden process done behind closed doors. As a                                                                     
member of the Senate Minority, he could graciously accept                                                                       
defeat on different projects as long at the process is held                                                                     
in an open forum. He listed several projects that were not                                                                      
funded, which he felt were important and should have been                                                                       
addressed. These projects included supplemental housing,                                                                        
weatherization, senior housing, the Hutchison training                                                                          
center and deferred maintenance projects throughout the                                                                         
State Of Alaska. He also suggested that additional school                                                                       
projects should have been considered. For these reasons, he                                                                     
opposed the committee substitute.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
By a vote of 8-1, the bill moved from committee. Senator Al                                                                     
Adams voted in opposition.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson thanked the Senate Finance                                                                              
Secretary and the Senate Finance Committee Page.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair John Torgerson announced there will be no finance                                                                      
committee meeting tomorrow. Bills scheduled for Monday                                                                          
morning are SB 157, SB 169 plus others listed on the                                                                            
agenda.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNED                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Torgerson adjourned the meeting at approximately                                                                        
10:30 PM.                                                                                                                       
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